Re: Editing solutions on Linux (Paul Willis)
Paul Willis <getdownpaul-/[email protected]>
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I just wanted to say thanks to both posters for bring this topic up, because this is something I'm interested in as well. --- linuxmovies-general-request-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org wrote: > Send Linuxmovies-general mailing list submissions to > linuxmovies-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxmovies-general > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > linuxmovies-general-request-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > linuxmovies-general-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Linuxmovies-general digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Editing solutions on Linux (Michael Duffy) > 2. Re: Editing solutions on Linux (R. Douglas > Barbieri) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Michael Duffy" <mduffy-rBIKwuJz7tlWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> > To: <Linuxmovies-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 20:59:37 -0500 > Subject: [Linuxmovies-general] Editing solutions on > Linux > Reply-To: linuxmovies-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C41CE3.3C763430 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Greetings, > > We are considering Linux as part of our pipeline for > our next project. = > Right now we are evaluating the software that we > will need to pull off = > production of a feature film. One area I'm not > familiar with though are = > the editing solutions for Linux. Our animation > department needs to be = > able to edit together the shots that the various > animators work on. = > Currently I think they use Premier on Windows, but > that's not available = > for Linux. They need to be able to graphically > (timeline) assemble the = > footage and adjust in and out points. Input can be > either a sequence of = > images (TGA, TIFF, etc), or possibly AVI input would > work as well. It = > does need to be pretty fast and simple to use, since > these are = > animators, not editors. The frames from animation > will probably be = > rendered at 1K, but might be in the 800 pixels > across range. Wide = > aspect ratio images will need to be supported (we > aren't working with SD = > here). > > So what is available? Either a commercial or an > open source solution is = > fine. Jahshaka doesn't look like it is finished > enough for production = > use. Kino? Cinelerra? Cuisine? =20 > > If our lighting department winds up on Linux then > they will probably be = > on Shake, but that is probably too expensive a > solution for animation. = > Lighting could also be on Macs, which makes Shake > even more appealing. > > Thanks for any input, > Michael Duffy > > ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C41CE3.3C763430 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 > Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type > content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" > name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial > size=3D2>Greetings,</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We are considering > Linux as part of our = > pipeline=20 > for our next project. Right now we are > evaluating the software = > that we=20 > will need to pull off production of a feature > film. One area I'm = > not=20 > familiar with though are the editing solutions for > Linux. Our = > animation=20 > department needs to be able to edit together the > shots that the various=20 > animators work on. Currently I think they use > Premier on Windows, = > but=20 > that's not available for Linux. They need to > be able to = > graphically=20 > (timeline) assemble the footage and adjust in and > out points. = > Input can be=20 > either a sequence of images (TGA, TIFF, etc), or > possibly AVI input = > would work=20 > as well. It does need to be pretty fast and > simple to use, since = > these are=20 > animators, not editors. The frames from > animation will probably be = > > rendered at 1K, but might be in the 800 pixels > across range. Wide = > aspect=20 > ratio images will need to be supported (we aren't > working with SD=20 > here).</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So what is > available? Either a = > commercial or=20 > an open source solution is fine. Jahshaka > doesn't look like it is = > finished=20 > enough for production use. Kino? > Cinelerra? = > Cuisine? =20 > </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If our lighting > department winds up on = > Linux then=20 > they will probably be on Shake, but that is probably > too expensive a = > solution=20 > for animation. Lighting could also be on Macs, > which makes Shake = > even more=20 > appealing.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for any > input,</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michael > Duffy</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial > size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> > > ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C41CE3.3C763430-- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:29:22 -0700 > From: "R. Douglas Barbieri" <[email protected]> > To: linuxmovies-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > Subject: Re: [Linuxmovies-general] Editing solutions > on Linux > Reply-To: linuxmovies-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > > On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 08:59:37PM -0500, Michael > Duffy wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > We are considering Linux as part of our pipeline > for our next project. > > Right now we are evaluating the software that we > will need to pull off > > production of a feature film. One area I'm not > familiar with though > > are the editing solutions for Linux. Our > animation department needs > > to be able to edit together the shots that the > various animators work > > on. Currently I think they use Premier on > Windows, but that's not > > available for Linux. They need to be able to > graphically (timeline) > > assemble the footage and adjust in and out points. > Input can be > > either a sequence of images (TGA, TIFF, etc), or > possibly AVI input > > would work as well. It does need to be pretty > fast and simple to use, > > since these are animators, not editors. The > frames from animation > > will probably be rendered at 1K, but might be in > the 800 pixels across > > range. Wide aspect ratio images will need to be > supported (we aren't > > working with SD here). > > > > So what is available? Either a commercial or an > open source solution > > is fine. Jahshaka doesn't look like it is > finished enough for > > production use. Kino? Cinelerra? Cuisine? > > I've used Kino and Cinelerra before, but not for any > big production. > I take video footage of my Linux User Group's > meetings and edit them > together. For that, I use Kino. Kino is really easy > to use, works great > with DV cam input, and automates the process of > conversion to mpeg2, > divx or even back out to raw DV. Unfortunately, it > doesn't hold a candle > to Premiere. And I think you might find it's > features a bit lacking. > > Cinelerra is much more sophisticated, offering a > timeline a bit more > like Premiere's, complete with audio and video > transitions and other > effects. I personally find the UI to be kinda > awkward (I wish they had > built the app on KDE/QT widgets instead). I think I > could use a > training session to make it sing. (I made a DV > presentation to my LUG > and demoed Cinelerra, making my awkward-UI comment. > Many people > objected, saying that it looked quite nice for an > open source app. Your > mileage may vary. :-) ). > > I can't comment on Cuisine, since I've never used > it. And, I'm not sure > about non-free software available on Linux in > general. I think if > something as slick and robust as Premiere were > availble, I myself would > seriously consider buying a copy. > > Another thought--you might want to contact Adobe and > tell them what you > are doing. You want Linux, and Premiere presently > won't run on that > platform (even with emulators like Wine and > Crossover Office). Tell them > you want a version! The more industry folks putting > pressure on them, > the more incentive they have to porting to X and > Linux (it should be a > snap considering that Premiere already runs on OSX). > > > If our lighting department winds up on Linux then > they will probably > > be on Shake, but that is probably too expensive a > solution for > > animation. Lighting could also be on Macs, which > makes Shake even > > more appealing. > > > > Thanks for any input, > > Michael Duffy > > -- > R. Douglas Barbieri > [email protected] > http://www.dooglio.net > > GPG Fingerprint : FE6A 6A57 2B95 7594 E534 BFEE > 45F1 9E5E F30A 8A27 > MIT.edu recv-key: C55B91D4 > GPG Public key : http://www.dooglio.net/dooglio.asc > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Linuxmovies-general mailing list > Linuxmovies-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxmovies-general > > > End of Linuxmovies-general Digest ===== Paul Willis The Critics: www.criticalfolks.blogspot.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. 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