Re: mesa driver with cad apps (solid edge, solidworks)
Brian Paul <[email protected]>
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You're welcome to file bugs in the Mesa bugzilla database. There's a chance someone might investigate them. If you come up with code patches, they should be posted for review on the mesa-dev mailing list. -Brian On 01/13/2016 10:28 AM, Jared Conway wrote: > Thanks for that. And should we find an issue, how do we report the > issue, do we need to provide code updates or does someone (or team of > people) solve the issue? > > > Jared Conway | Product Manager | 650.918.0324 > 318 South B St., #6 | San Mateo | CA | 94401 > > www.fra.me > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fra.me_&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=IiMxNXk1UJDjkNnOKbjlFwvPEExoi5yAwiGuyGZkkxg&s=IEpBCgDPKA-7Q6Ao34K9rrEvY2zXNO-5Vm_qtptwurc&e=> > > Want setup a meeting? Find my availability here: > https://calendly.com/jaredatframe > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_jaredatframe&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=IiMxNXk1UJDjkNnOKbjlFwvPEExoi5yAwiGuyGZkkxg&s=UUxLC9FFgb8m8G8TK0Cu2kKmiqoOsHOMmj41Qx2VrB4&e=> > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Brian Paul <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > The apitrace tool which I mentioned is pretty useful. You can use > it to capture an app's OpenGL calls and replay them. You can even > replay a trace made on Windows in Linux. Doing that could help > determine if the artifacts are on Windows only, or on Linux too, for > example. > > Other than that, it's a matter of debugging with visual studio or > whatever tools you have. Admittedly, it could be big task if one > doesn't have experience with Mesa/gallium. > > -Brian > > On 01/13/2016 10:16 AM, Jared Conway wrote: > > Hi Brian, I think the info you've provided has been helpful. > > What would normal course of action be to do the graphics > debugging with > an open source? I'm not on the dev side here but rather on the > applications side, so I'm interested in giving them info on how > they can > look into this further. > > Thanks. > > > Jared Conway | Product Manager | 650.918.0324 <tel:650.918.0324> > 318 South B St., #6 | San Mateo | CA | 94401 > > www.fra.me > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fra.me&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=IiMxNXk1UJDjkNnOKbjlFwvPEExoi5yAwiGuyGZkkxg&s=4DmkE1KNVECL4w-fftwRuk6E1n8UBRfh2zAtjigR6Tc&e=> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fra.me_&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=y-lb5vSHf4IqDVcJ9HHfAf3GoFSkZzMwwecJ6XP8aSE&s=QAMk4AJvL2ngIdUtwetsBpsfsOG6OkLXQqHzr_fJ81Y&e=> > > Want setup a meeting? Find my availability here: > https://calendly.com/jaredatframe > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_jaredatframe&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=IiMxNXk1UJDjkNnOKbjlFwvPEExoi5yAwiGuyGZkkxg&s=UUxLC9FFgb8m8G8TK0Cu2kKmiqoOsHOMmj41Qx2VrB4&e=> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_jaredatframe&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=y-lb5vSHf4IqDVcJ9HHfAf3GoFSkZzMwwecJ6XP8aSE&s=eyCtdN5TXEHH5EE9BIIat-XQi9bHF8OeORBRRZbO6B0&e=> > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Brian Paul <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > Yes, llvmpipe should provide much better performance than > the MS > software driver. But llvmpipe in a Windows guest isn't a > configuration that anyone really tests (including VMware), > AFAIK. > > Sounds like solidworks is testing the OpenGL driver in some way > during installation after all. The only hope of diagnosing > that > would probably be with 'apitrace' (on github). But it might be > tricky to do. > > As for the rendering artifacts, it would require some general > debugging effort to narrow it down. > > I'm afraid I can't help much more than that. I don't have > any spare > time and the higher-ups would probably frown on me spending > time on > a competing platform. > > -Brian > > > On 01/13/2016 09:46 AM, Jared Conway wrote: > > Hi Brian, thanks for the feedback. > > We are using the mesa driver because our understanding > was that > it would > provide better performance than a standard software opengl > driver for > the amazon t2 systems that we have the driver installed on. > > Regarding the apps, the behaviors we have seen: > 1. solidworks, stalls at around 75% during installation > with this > driver. removing it, install goes through without > issue. when > the driver > is installed, you are able to open a model but then the > app will > crash > after several rotations of a model. without the driver, > the app > works > fine, just slow. > 2. solidedge, install is ok if i remember correctly. > but with > the driver > installed, graphics window generally has artifacts that > remain > and when > clicking tabs in the application, they do not highlight > unless > the whole > app is moved around on the screen. > > Let me know if that adds more clarity to the situation > and if > you have > any suggestions. Thanks! > > > > Jared Conway | Product Manager | 650.918.0324 > <tel:650.918.0324> <tel:650.918.0324 <tel:650.918.0324>> > 318 South B St., #6 | San Mateo | CA | 94401 > > www.fra.me > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fra.me&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=IiMxNXk1UJDjkNnOKbjlFwvPEExoi5yAwiGuyGZkkxg&s=4DmkE1KNVECL4w-fftwRuk6E1n8UBRfh2zAtjigR6Tc&e=> > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fra.me&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=y-lb5vSHf4IqDVcJ9HHfAf3GoFSkZzMwwecJ6XP8aSE&s=Vk9eGL-dvVS5HLUTgTzaH3czT34SOd7llHe0JU9xUe8&e=> > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fra.me_&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=8DSEOpBZFZvM0eSmwCfXt0Ax9lfUrJwg0GYlGcy0UME&s=54ZbZDeq2kG5t7jvle7VSF_Yo7pjj-8l5Scy7l4YRrI&e=> > > Want setup a meeting? Find my availability here: > https://calendly.com/jaredatframe > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_jaredatframe&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=IiMxNXk1UJDjkNnOKbjlFwvPEExoi5yAwiGuyGZkkxg&s=UUxLC9FFgb8m8G8TK0Cu2kKmiqoOsHOMmj41Qx2VrB4&e=> > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_jaredatframe&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=y-lb5vSHf4IqDVcJ9HHfAf3GoFSkZzMwwecJ6XP8aSE&s=eyCtdN5TXEHH5EE9BIIat-XQi9bHF8OeORBRRZbO6B0&e=> > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_jaredatframe&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=8DSEOpBZFZvM0eSmwCfXt0Ax9lfUrJwg0GYlGcy0UME&s=OAgteBrYdTSjl7jl0gMm9a8yZHVDu_Ukzjv7efshrqE&e=> > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Brian Paul > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote: > > > According to the screenshot, you're using the llvmpipe > driver on > Windows. The Mesa version is 10.something (you'd > have to > click on > the "See details..." link to get the specific > version.) > > The first question is, why are you using Mesa > instead of a > regular > GPU driver? What kind of GPU do you have? > > Your original question/problem was: > > "Has anyone used the mesa drivers with CAD apps > like solid > edge or > solidworks? We have been using them and find that > the apps > don't > install or have issues displaying graphics properly." > > I guess I'd need more details. When an app doesn't > install, what > exactly is the installer complaining about? Some > CAD apps > refuse to > run with "non-certified" OpenGL drivers. But > that's usually an > issue when the app is started, not at install time. > > As for display problems, again, what exactly is > the issue? > A few > months ago, I fixed a few issues related to > drawing long > GL_LINE_LOOP primitives and Roland recently fixed some > issues with > glEdgeFlag in llvmpipe that fixes at least one CAD app > (Spazio3D). > I don't know of any other outstanding llvmpipe > rendering > issues. If > something is mis-rendered, perhaps you can file a > Mesa bug > report > with as much detail as possible. > > -Brian > > > > _______________________________________________ mesa-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-users