Re: mesa driver with cad apps (solid edge, solidworks)
Jared Conway <[email protected]>
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Hi Brian, thanks for the info. Jared Conway | Product Manager | 650.918.0324 318 South B St., #6 | San Mateo | CA | 94401 www.fra.me Want setup a meeting? Find my availability here: https://calendly.com/jaredatframe On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Brian Paul <[email protected]> wrote: > You're welcome to file bugs in the Mesa bugzilla database. There's a > chance someone might investigate them. > > If you come up with code patches, they should be posted for review on the > mesa-dev mailing list. > > -Brian > > On 01/13/2016 10:28 AM, Jared Conway wrote: > >> Thanks for that. And should we find an issue, how do we report the >> issue, do we need to provide code updates or does someone (or team of >> people) solve the issue? >> >> >> Jared Conway | Product Manager | 650.918.0324 >> 318 South B St., #6 | San Mateo | CA | 94401 >> >> www.fra.me >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fra.me_&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=IiMxNXk1UJDjkNnOKbjlFwvPEExoi5yAwiGuyGZkkxg&s=IEpBCgDPKA-7Q6Ao34K9rrEvY2zXNO-5Vm_qtptwurc&e= >> > >> >> Want setup a meeting? Find my availability here: >> https://calendly.com/jaredatframe >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_jaredatframe&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=IiMxNXk1UJDjkNnOKbjlFwvPEExoi5yAwiGuyGZkkxg&s=UUxLC9FFgb8m8G8TK0Cu2kKmiqoOsHOMmj41Qx2VrB4&e= >> > >> >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Brian Paul <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> The apitrace tool which I mentioned is pretty useful. You can use >> it to capture an app's OpenGL calls and replay them. You can even >> replay a trace made on Windows in Linux. Doing that could help >> determine if the artifacts are on Windows only, or on Linux too, for >> example. >> >> Other than that, it's a matter of debugging with visual studio or >> whatever tools you have. Admittedly, it could be big task if one >> doesn't have experience with Mesa/gallium. >> >> -Brian >> >> On 01/13/2016 10:16 AM, Jared Conway wrote: >> >> Hi Brian, I think the info you've provided has been helpful. >> >> What would normal course of action be to do the graphics >> debugging with >> an open source? I'm not on the dev side here but rather on the >> applications side, so I'm interested in giving them info on how >> they can >> look into this further. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> Jared Conway | Product Manager | 650.918.0324 <tel:650.918.0324> >> 318 South B St., #6 | San Mateo | CA | 94401 >> >> www.fra.me >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fra.me&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=IiMxNXk1UJDjkNnOKbjlFwvPEExoi5yAwiGuyGZkkxg&s=4DmkE1KNVECL4w-fftwRuk6E1n8UBRfh2zAtjigR6Tc&e= >> > >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fra.me_&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=y-lb5vSHf4IqDVcJ9HHfAf3GoFSkZzMwwecJ6XP8aSE&s=QAMk4AJvL2ngIdUtwetsBpsfsOG6OkLXQqHzr_fJ81Y&e= >> > >> >> Want setup a meeting? Find my availability here: >> https://calendly.com/jaredatframe >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_jaredatframe&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=IiMxNXk1UJDjkNnOKbjlFwvPEExoi5yAwiGuyGZkkxg&s=UUxLC9FFgb8m8G8TK0Cu2kKmiqoOsHOMmj41Qx2VrB4&e= >> > >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_jaredatframe&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=y-lb5vSHf4IqDVcJ9HHfAf3GoFSkZzMwwecJ6XP8aSE&s=eyCtdN5TXEHH5EE9BIIat-XQi9bHF8OeORBRRZbO6B0&e= >> > >> >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Brian Paul <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, llvmpipe should provide much better performance than >> the MS >> software driver. But llvmpipe in a Windows guest isn't a >> configuration that anyone really tests (including VMware), >> AFAIK. >> >> Sounds like solidworks is testing the OpenGL driver in some >> way >> during installation after all. The only hope of diagnosing >> that >> would probably be with 'apitrace' (on github). But it might >> be >> tricky to do. >> >> As for the rendering artifacts, it would require some general >> debugging effort to narrow it down. >> >> I'm afraid I can't help much more than that. I don't have >> any spare >> time and the higher-ups would probably frown on me spending >> time on >> a competing platform. >> >> -Brian >> >> >> On 01/13/2016 09:46 AM, Jared Conway wrote: >> >> Hi Brian, thanks for the feedback. >> >> We are using the mesa driver because our understanding >> was that >> it would >> provide better performance than a standard software >> opengl >> driver for >> the amazon t2 systems that we have the driver installed >> on. >> >> Regarding the apps, the behaviors we have seen: >> 1. solidworks, stalls at around 75% during installation >> with this >> driver. removing it, install goes through without >> issue. when >> the driver >> is installed, you are able to open a model but then the >> app will >> crash >> after several rotations of a model. without the driver, >> the app >> works >> fine, just slow. >> 2. solidedge, install is ok if i remember correctly. >> but with >> the driver >> installed, graphics window generally has artifacts that >> remain >> and when >> clicking tabs in the application, they do not highlight >> unless >> the whole >> app is moved around on the screen. >> >> Let me know if that adds more clarity to the situation >> and if >> you have >> any suggestions. Thanks! >> >> >> >> Jared Conway | Product Manager | 650.918.0324 >> <tel:650.918.0324> <tel:650.918.0324 <tel:650.918.0324>> >> 318 South B St., #6 | San Mateo | CA | 94401 >> >> www.fra.me >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fra.me&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=IiMxNXk1UJDjkNnOKbjlFwvPEExoi5yAwiGuyGZkkxg&s=4DmkE1KNVECL4w-fftwRuk6E1n8UBRfh2zAtjigR6Tc&e= >> > >> >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fra.me&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=y-lb5vSHf4IqDVcJ9HHfAf3GoFSkZzMwwecJ6XP8aSE&s=Vk9eGL-dvVS5HLUTgTzaH3czT34SOd7llHe0JU9xUe8&e= >> > >> >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.fra.me_&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=8DSEOpBZFZvM0eSmwCfXt0Ax9lfUrJwg0GYlGcy0UME&s=54ZbZDeq2kG5t7jvle7VSF_Yo7pjj-8l5Scy7l4YRrI&e= >> > >> >> Want setup a meeting? Find my availability here: >> https://calendly.com/jaredatframe >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_jaredatframe&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=IiMxNXk1UJDjkNnOKbjlFwvPEExoi5yAwiGuyGZkkxg&s=UUxLC9FFgb8m8G8TK0Cu2kKmiqoOsHOMmj41Qx2VrB4&e= >> > >> >> >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_jaredatframe&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=y-lb5vSHf4IqDVcJ9HHfAf3GoFSkZzMwwecJ6XP8aSE&s=eyCtdN5TXEHH5EE9BIIat-XQi9bHF8OeORBRRZbO6B0&e= >> > >> >> < >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__calendly.com_jaredatframe&d=BQMFaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=T0t4QG7chq2ZwJo6wilkFznRSFy-8uDKartPGbomVj8&m=8DSEOpBZFZvM0eSmwCfXt0Ax9lfUrJwg0GYlGcy0UME&s=OAgteBrYdTSjl7jl0gMm9a8yZHVDu_Ukzjv7efshrqE&e= >> > >> >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Brian Paul >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote: >> >> >> According to the screenshot, you're using the >> llvmpipe >> driver on >> Windows. The Mesa version is 10.something (you'd >> have to >> click on >> the "See details..." link to get the specific >> version.) >> >> The first question is, why are you using Mesa >> instead of a >> regular >> GPU driver? What kind of GPU do you have? >> >> Your original question/problem was: >> >> "Has anyone used the mesa drivers with CAD apps >> like solid >> edge or >> solidworks? We have been using them and find that >> the apps >> don't >> install or have issues displaying graphics >> properly." >> >> I guess I'd need more details. When an app doesn't >> install, what >> exactly is the installer complaining about? Some >> CAD apps >> refuse to >> run with "non-certified" OpenGL drivers. But >> that's usually an >> issue when the app is started, not at install time. >> >> As for display problems, again, what exactly is >> the issue? >> A few >> months ago, I fixed a few issues related to >> drawing long >> GL_LINE_LOOP primitives and Roland recently fixed >> some >> issues with >> glEdgeFlag in llvmpipe that fixes at least one CAD >> app >> (Spazio3D). >> I don't know of any other outstanding llvmpipe >> rendering >> issues. If >> something is mis-rendered, perhaps you can file a >> Mesa bug >> report >> with as much detail as possible. >> >> -Brian >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ mesa-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-users