RE: [MPEGIF Discuss] MPEG LA Announces Terms of JointH.264/MPEG-4 AVC Patent License
"Moore, Rondal J." <[email protected]> Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:03:13 -0800
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Craig Via announced terms long ago. You can find them on Via's website at www.vialicensing.com Via's group's terms do not include use fees on DBS broadcasters or terrestrial digital broadcasters for that matter. It is counterproductive for adoption of the technology and therefore for the overall program to have terms like these that discourage content production and distribution. I too agree that any subscription based service provider as well as any over the air (or through the atmosphere) broadcaster will have difficulty including this in their business models. The content production, and content distribution industries are fundamentally different in their business models from consumer electronics manufacturers. CE manufacturers include technologies that are supported by the availability of relevant content in order to convince a customer to buy their product instead of the product of a competitor. In the content production and content delivery industries, the specific technology being used is not as directly related to obtaining and retaining a customer. Instead their model is based on the content that is being delivered and how it is presented/organized (programming). In these cases, they have plenty of other costs that they incur including speculative investment in new production or compilation of lots of content that provides a greater scope of content availablity much of which provides little return on investment. It would be no more acceptable (and no more outrageous) for the content production and distribution industry to require technology providers to pay for the use of a specific technology in the production and distribution process. After all, the content industry could make the argument (and in fact in some forums they have) that CE companies make money selling devices that have no purpose other than to consume their content (DVD players, MP3 players) and therefore CE companies make money off their content without "reimbursing" the content companies. Each of these arguments are in many ways equally fallacious. The original MPEG 2 visual license struck a good balance between the two industries. Where the technology increased the distribution base and customers for content (DVD) there was a sharing of that with the creators of the enabling technologies (not just the encoding format, but also several other areas of DVD production and operation). AVC/H.264 has similar application to HD DVD and making download formats and VOD/PPV much more IP network friendly and therefore much more possible at higher quality with lower bandwidth. It is those areas that it is appropriate to share costs across the industries because it is across industries that the customer acquisition and customer retention benefits apply. In the case of over the air broadcast or subscription services that case is not so clear. Especially where there are alternatives that do not have these kinds of burdens. The market will be the judge of these terms, but it would seem they have all the potential of the MPEG 4 Part 2 license to discourage the availability of professionally produced content and therefore limit the application of the technology to consumer based capture devices (cell phones, camcorders). If that happens it will be a waste of a great technology that has the real potential to unify compression technologies across many different platforms. Ron Moore -----Original Message----- From: discuss-bounces-wvgAS0I8NaWTm/[email protected] [mailto:discuss-bounces-wvgAS0I8NaWTm/[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig Birkmaier Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 8:29 AM To: rob.koenen-8/[email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [MPEGIF Discuss] MPEG LA Announces Terms of JointH.264/MPEG-4 AVC Patent License At 5:52 PM -0500 11/19/03, Rob Koenen \(MPEGIF\) wrote: >Craig, > >> My guess is that >> the DBS service providers are going to have a very difficult time >> dealing with the subscriber use fees... > >Could you provide a bit more detail on why this is the case? I'd like >to see facts and figures in this discussion. As I understand it, both U.S. DBS providers and newsCorp have stated that they will not use any compression technology that charges use fees. Nothing official here, just comments made at conferences, etc. I suspect that there will not be any official comments on this until Via announces their license terms. Regards Craig _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss-wvgAS0I8NaWTm/[email protected] http://lists.mpegif.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ----------------------------------------- This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited.