Re: Video window losing focus in full-screen mode is a pain.

Fri Dec 06 2002, David Vrabel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> First,  let me say it's great to see a media player that uses standard
> controls and keeps the window manager borders.  There is nothing I hate
> more than skins and missing borders.  Keep up the good work guys.
> 
Thanks, sorry for the delay in answering.

> Now for the problem...
> 
> When the video window is in full-screen mode and it loses focus (e.g.
> when another window grabs it), there are certain circumstances that
> prevent it from ever regaining focus (or making regaining focus
> non-obvious as you can't see underneath the video overlay).  Since the
> video overlay is on top of everything else and you can't focus it to
> un-full-screen...
> 
For some window managers this should simply not happen.  These are the
new wm's that have a special FULLSCREEN mode.  With older wm it might
be a problem.  And when one loses focues it's not good to have 
'focus-on-enter' for example, since it's hard to 'enter' a window that
covers the screen.   Click-to-focus would be much better, or having a
acceleration button for that or moving windows, say Alt+LeftMouse so
you can move it away and 'enter' to regain focus.

> Is there some way that the video window can be made to never loose
> focus while in full screen mode?  Or should I be looking at my window
> manager's (sawfish) configuration?
> 
It's a dilema, I don't think it would be a good idea to grab the input
focus like that, what if Ogle crashes, or hangs.

> Alternatively (and probably a better idea), how about switching to
> non-full-screen when the video window looses focus.  This would have
> the added advantage of seeing the new window that just popped up.
> 
Well, I don't think this is a good idea, think for example of people
that have two screens and run Xinerama, they'd surly like to move the
mouse over to the other screen and do stuff there without Ogle leaving
fullscreen mode just because of that.  
It's a problem havign 'focus-on-open' and 'focus-on-enter'.  Other 
suggestions about how to solve this would be welcome.

> Another (minor point):  In the FAQ (question 39) you mention turning
> off kscd.  The same issue occurs with the GNOME CD player applet.
> 
Ah, will see about adding that.  Thanks.

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Håkan Hjort