What is picogui being used for?

What's wrong with tinyx/kdrive and gtk?=20
-> To big, (Widgets do not fit for a screen size of e.g. 128 x 128)

try Evas from enlightenment.org ?=20
-> To big (what about Widgets ?)

Matchbox ?
-> is NOT a GUI...it uses also tiny-X and is used in GPE-Project as a
launcher-app

The problem is, that we are looking for a GUI solution, which is small =
(that
means < 500 k) wich
does NOT have dependencies to any big libs like imlib, xlib, gtk, pango =
etc.
or works with X (even tinyX is to big to fit on a small embedded device =
with
4 MB Flash/8 MB RAM).=20
PicoGui is a modular design which provides also useful widgets and a =
robust
client/ server
principle. In addition to that, the consequently separation between =
content
and presentation (theming capabilities) is the coolest thing (but no =
good
description for that) within PicoGui. This can be used to modify the =
look
and feel for a mobile device.
At least Escali did a good job starting to create a Smartphone Platform
using PicoGui,=20
but they did not find a vendor for that (that's pitty) and the sources =
are
not available to create
a competitor to commercial product like =
Symbian/MS-Mobile/Qt-Phone-Edition.=20

This is what Pico-Gui could be used for...

cu
Claus

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   1. Re: current picGUI status (Raphael Mack)
   2. Re: current picGUI status (Lalo Martins)
   3. RE: current picGUI status (Nemec, Bernhard)
   4. Re: What is picogui being used for? (Peter Graf)

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Message: 1
From: Raphael Mack <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pgui-devel] current picGUI status
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 08:13:27 +0100

Am Sonntag, 21. M=3DE4rz 2004 21:10 schrieb [email protected]:
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 01:06:09PM +0100, Raphael Mack wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 21. M?rz 2004 12:17 schrieb [email protected]:
> > any suggestions? - I search something that is fast, small, that=20
> > doesn't need X (fbdev), it should have a easy C-interface (or=20
> > directly Eiffel, but I gave that up and made friends with creating =
a=20
> > wrapper). I don't need all these things like tooltips...
>
> What's wrong with tinyx/kdrive and gtk?

I don't exactly know, I didn't test it on the target system, but as I =
compi=3D
led=3D20 gtk on my development machine, I had the impression that there =
are
many=3D20 dependencies, like pango, freetype, ... and the whole thing =
will
become big=3D =3D2E=3D20 GTK is very compfortable and supports many =
things I
really don't need, that=3D 's=3D20 why I would like s. th. smaller. - I =
know
that for example the size of the=3D =3D20 packages doesn't always say =
too much
about the size and speed of the=3D20 resulting binary, but it at least =
a bit I
think... This was just an=3D20 impression I didn't have with picogui...

I didn't take a closer look to matchbox, but I will check it out. =
Thanks.

Rapha



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 04:24:26 -0300
From: Lalo Martins <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pgui-devel] current picGUI status

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 08:27:48PM +0100, Raphael Mack wrote:
> I tried to find out more about the current
> status of the project, but many pages are a bit old and surfing =
around=20
> picogui.org confuses me a bit... So I would be interested about the =
status
of=20
> the project and bit information about when what will be released or =
better
is=20
> planned to be released

well, if it helps, I updated the main page
(http://www.picogui.org) with an honest account of the current status =
of
development.

[]s,
                                               |alo
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Message: 3
From: "Nemec, Bernhard" <[email protected]>
To: 'Raphael Mack' <[email protected]>,=20
	[email protected]
Subject: RE: [Pgui-devel] current picGUI status
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:00:12 +0100

>=20
> any suggestions? - I search something that is fast, small,
> that doesn't need X=20
> (fbdev), it should have a easy C-interface (or directly=20
> Eiffel, but I gave=20
> that up and made friends with creating a wrapper). I don't=20
> need all these=20
> things like tooltips...

You should try Evas from enlightenment.org.
Get the latest version from their CVS (e17/libs/evas).

Cheers,
Bernhard


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:59:42 +0100
From: Peter Graf <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Pgui-devel] Re: What is picogui being used for?

Micah wrote:

>With the recent traffic on this list, I've become curious. What is=20
>PicoGUI being used for these days?
> =20
>
I only watch, just in case someone more capable than me introduces=20
abstraction from Unixish dependencies. I'd use it as display for motor=20
controllers, and probably also to provide a desktop GUI.

Peter




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