Re: Fwd: Building under a recent OS

Edward Robbins <[email protected]> Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:12:38 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.video.picogui.devel
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Also, I should add that I'm in the IRC channel if anyone wants to talk
picogui.

Ed


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Edward Robbins
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Cool, some people still use this! I sent my mail twice (and registered
> twice) because I sometimes have trouble with mailing lists and
> gmail/googlemail domain confusion, and I hadn't seen my own email come ba=
ck
> from the list so was also thinking that maybe the mailing list was broken=
.
>
> You can find my efforts here: https://github.com/static-void/picogui
>
> I haven't really gotten too far with it yet, just got it to build. Also
> note that I just copied my whole directory so there's a lot of junk (like
> ".svn" folders) that I haven't cleaned up yet. As I said the X driver
> works, but none of the others I've tried really do. I tried the ncurses
> earlier driver - it starts but is a bit messed up. svgalib driver is
> broken. What's bugging me the most at the moment is that most of the them=
es
> don't seem to work properly. I switched to a 32-bit vm to test it out, an=
d
> I mostly get
>
> *** ERROR (BADPARAM) : Stack overflow in fillstyle interpreter
>
> or similar. Unfortunately while I'm pretty comfortable with C/C++ and
> automake, flex and yacc are uncharted territory so I don't know how I'll
> get on there. The theme stuff looks pretty cryptic, and I'm not sure if t=
he
> problem is in pgserver or themec. At least (some) of the apps seem to wor=
k
> ok, even without a theme, or with a very basic one.
>
> Thanks for getting back to me,
> Ed
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:35 PM, M. Elizabeth Scott <[email protected]>wr=
ote:
>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> Nice to see that someone's still interested in using PicoGUI. If you do
>> move it to github give me a shout, and I'll update the web site with a
>> prominent link.
>>
>> As for why I gave up on it... life happens. It was fun to work on for a
>> few years, then I needed to move on. The project might have lived on if
>> there was more interest in it, but it never had enough momentum to conti=
nue
>> on without me :(
>>
>> =97beth
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:13 AM, Edward Robbins <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I guess that now, 10 years later, this list is pretty dead (like the
>>> website). I know picogui from my psion days, and I decided to use picog=
ui
>>> for some development work because it's still much faster than anything =
else
>>> out there, and when you need a gui that can run multiple apps on a 150M=
Hz
>>> ARM9 machine with 32MB RAM you need something faster than X windows, an=
d
>>> something that doesn't need any real graphics capabilities. Being able =
to
>>> run multiple SDL programs, and already having a terminal app, are also =
big
>>> wins. Looking around, picogui is still really the only thing that fits =
the
>>> bill for this without investing serious amounts of time... why did you =
give
>>> up on it!?
>>>
>>> Anyway, I spent most of yesterday hacking, and managed to get the 0.46
>>> build system and code updated to the extent that it now builds on a mod=
ern
>>> OS. Unfortunately there are 64-bit compatibility issues with themec, wh=
ich
>>> I still need to look into, and I think that maybe the linux framebuffer=
 has
>>> changed since picogui's heyday (when I run the framebuffer servers I ge=
t
>>> random looking text all over the screen - I'd be interested if anyone k=
nows
>>> anything about fixing this). But the x11 driver seems to work just fine=
.
>>>
>>> I'm going to put the updated code onto github soon, and then look into
>>> the x64 issues, then the framebuffer, then hopefully I can start writin=
g
>>> the apps I want, and getting it to build with an ARM cross compiler. I
>>> don't think I'll actually be improving the code unless I run into bugs,=
 but
>>> thought someone out there might be interested anyway.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Also, I should add that I&#39;m in the IRC channel if anyo=
ne wants to talk picogui.<div><br></div><div style>Ed</div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at=
 8:11 PM, Edward Robbins <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:edd.robbin=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Cool, some people still use this! I=
 sent my mail twice (and registered twice) because I sometimes have trouble=
 with mailing lists and gmail/googlemail domain confusion, and I hadn&#39;t=
 seen my own email come back from the list so was also thinking that maybe =
the mailing list was broken.<br>

</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">
<div><br></div><div>You can find my efforts here:=A0<a href=3D"https://gith=
ub.com/static-void/picogui" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/static-voi=
d/picogui</a></div><div><br></div><div>I haven&#39;t really gotten too far =
with it yet, just got it to build. Also note that I just copied my whole di=
rectory so there&#39;s a lot of junk (like &quot;.svn&quot; folders) that I=
 haven&#39;t cleaned up yet. As I said the X driver works, but none of the =
others I&#39;ve tried really do. I tried the ncurses earlier driver - it st=
arts but is a bit messed up. svgalib driver is broken. What&#39;s bugging m=
e the most at the moment is that most of the themes don&#39;t seem to work =
properly. I switched to a 32-bit vm to test it out, and I mostly get=A0</di=
v>


<div><br></div><div>*** ERROR (BADPARAM) : Stack overflow in fillstyle inte=
rpreter</div><div><br></div><div>or similar. Unfortunately while I&#39;m pr=
etty comfortable with C/C++ and automake, flex and yacc are=A0uncharted ter=
ritory so I don&#39;t know how I&#39;ll get on there. The theme stuff looks=
 pretty cryptic, and I&#39;m not sure if the problem is in pgserver or them=
ec. At least (some) of the apps seem to work ok, even without a theme, or w=
ith a very basic one.</div>


<div><br></div><div>Thanks for getting back to me,</div><div>Ed</div></div>=
<div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:35 PM, M. Elizabeth Scott <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Ed,<div><br></div><div>Nice to see that s=
omeone&#39;s still interested in using PicoGUI. If you do move it to github=
 give me a shout, and I&#39;ll update the web site with a prominent link.</=
div>


<div><br></div><div>As for why I gave up on it... life happens. It was fun =
to work on for a few years, then I needed to move on. The project might hav=
e lived on if there was more interest in it, but it never had enough moment=
um to continue on without me :(</div>



<div><br clear=3D"all"><div>=97beth</div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div>On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:13 A=
M, Edward Robbins <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:edd.robbins@googl=
email.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrot=
e:<br>


</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all,<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v>I guess that now, 10 years later, this list is pretty dead (like the webs=
ite). I know picogui from my psion days, and I decided to use picogui for s=
ome development work because it&#39;s still much faster than anything else =
out there, and when you need a gui that can run multiple apps on a 150MHz A=
RM9 machine with 32MB RAM you need something faster than X windows, and som=
ething that doesn&#39;t need any real graphics capabilities. Being able to =
run multiple SDL programs, and already having a terminal app, are also big =
wins. Looking around, picogui is still really the only thing that fits the =
bill for this without investing serious amounts of time... why did you give=
 up on it!?</div>





<div><br></div><div>Anyway, I spent most of yesterday hacking, and managed =
to get the 0.46 build system and code updated to the extent that it now bui=
lds on a modern OS. Unfortunately there are 64-bit compatibility issues wit=
h themec, which I still need to look into, and I think that maybe the linux=
 framebuffer has changed since picogui&#39;s heyday (when I run the framebu=
ffer servers I get random looking text all over the screen - I&#39;d be int=
erested if anyone knows anything about fixing this). But the x11 driver see=
ms to work just fine.</div>



<div>

<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m going to put the updated code onto github soon,=
 and then look into the x64 issues, then the framebuffer, then hopefully I =
can start writing the apps I want, and getting it to build with an ARM cros=
s compiler. I don&#39;t think I&#39;ll actually be improving the code unles=
s I run into bugs, but thought someone out there might be interested anyway=
.</div>





<div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br>Ed</div></div></div>
</div><br></div>
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