Re: latest xine-lib in Debian unstable

Am Sonntag, 19. August 2007 14:27:25 schrieben Sie:
> Uwe Bugla <[email protected]> writes:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Yesterday evening I tried to record some DVB live stuff with the
> > connection dvbstream (recording engine) and latest xine (playing engine).
> >
> > After about half an hour the window suddenly broke down and the recording
> > was _finished_ by accident.
> >
> > Distro is latest Debian unstable, kernel is 2.6.22.3.
> >
> > Fortunately this does not happen with dvbstream / mplayer.
> >
> > In so far the problem is a _pure_ xine-lib issue (1.1.7-3).
>
> Did earlier version von xine-lib work for you? Is this a regression or
> has it always been there?

Yes, earlier versions of xine-lib worked _purrrrrrfect_, in so far it _is_ a 
regression in xine-lib, definitely!

I am working with a small not yet released self-built TCL/TK/Iwidgets-4.0 
project using time-shifting: dvbstream records something, then the system 
sleeps a couple of seconds, then the player starts to play back the recorded 
material. That way recording engine and playback engine _race_ against each 
other (like two cars - time-shifted).

If the sleep timing is too short, the whole thing dies after a couple of 
minutes (usually two or three - but never in this life after half an hour!).

As a consequence I can definitely exclude the timing issue as possible case 
for the breakdown.

Thus the regression in xine-lib is the only possible reason for the crash, at 
least in my perception.

See: If you are recording real nice rarities (like the legendary Rockpalast 
gig of _Grateful Dead_ in 1981 f. ex. last night), and the recording breaks 
down after a while that really bothers you as some events do _not_ appear too 
often on TV - especially the legendary jewelry that is being broadcasted once 
in ten or twenty years :(

>
> > Please do your best to make that lib stable, so that such an accident
> > does not happen again.
>
> Hints how to do that would help. Offer for help as well.

Ain't no programmer, but I do my best to describe the issues as precise as 
possible :)

Let's try to activate the xine maintainers and developers :)

>
> > Apart from that I am missing some german menu titles in latest xine-ui
> > (0.99.5-2+b1):
> >
> > The menu title above _Wiedergabe_ (Playback) is missing and the german
> > Umlauts do not appear at all. My language setting (locale) is de_DE as
> > default. Does xine-ui need other locale settings or have I found a
> > software bug or even packaging bug?
>
> I'm waiting for xine-ui 0.99.6 to release, which I think will fix this.

Sounds great :)

P. S.: Just made a test again with my equipment, this time without recording 
something.

Result:

1. Breakdown again after about one hour :(

2. Message: Too many dropped frames (which is _crap_ from the analytic point 
of view in that case because:

a. my processor is 1,8 MHz Intel
b. the graphics card is fast enough too, although being old (ATI Rage 128 AGP, 
32 MB RAM).
c. framedropping is normal, but _never_ should lead to crashes at all!

Thank God that there are alternatives like gmplayer!

As many apps like kaffeine f. ex. _do_ depend on xine-lib the urgency to get 
that stuff fixed is very high!

I guess xine-lib was moved from experimental to unstable in a far to early 
state, wasn't it?

Best wishes

Uwe

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