Re: latest xine-lib in Debian unstable

Am Dienstag, 21. August 2007 20:41:52 schrieb Darren Salt:
> I demand that Uwe Bugla may or may not have written...
>
> > Am Dienstag, 21. August 2007 19:04:50 schrieb Darren Salt:
> >> (No need to Cc.)
>
> (Ahem.)
>
> [snip]
>
> >>> For the breakdown I am still stepping in the dark, as it happened with
> >>> Mplayer too meanwhile - and two playback engines cannot be that buggy
> >>> at the same time, can they? Maybe it's a kernel issue, don't know.
> >>> Anyway it's very tricky to find out the real good reason why that
> >>> happened.
> >>
> >> Do you have any reception problems? Less-than-good cabling? (Check the
> >> BER with dvbtune on various channels - use those which are broadcast
> >> using higher QAM values, since they should show problems more readily -
> >> well, they do here...)

I only have got reception problems if I try to catch second german television 
(ZDF) on Hotbird-13.0E. In the morning and noon hours it's there, in the late 
afternoon hours it suddenly disappears (i. e. no frontend lock anymore).
The BER of that channel as part of the Hotbird bouquet is very high.

> >
> > I am DVB freak (yeah, a crack), so please stop to teach me those
> > lessons.......
>
> Not a problem. Lesson no. 2 will appear when it appears to be needed ;-)
>
> > Above that, Astra-19.2 E comes in here with high leveled energy (more
> > than 5 times than _minimum enough!_), so this possible reason of the
> > problem we can safely exclude..... :)
>
> Just wondering, really: I've just replaced one short cable and repaired
> another due to lots of little bits of damage due to having been knocked
> about a bit because of where they are (there's not much that I can do about
> their location, though).
>
> >>> Now for problem number two (missing menu titles in xine-ui 0.99.5-2+b1)
> >>> I added a screenshot as outline attachment this time (as recommended by
> >>> Darren).
> >>
> >> Actually, an image of the menu only would have done... still, too late
> >> now
> >>
> >> :-)
> >
> > A better idea would be to ask the admin of that list to raise the volume
> > level from 40 kB to at least 60 or 80 kB.... :)
>
> Probably, yes... but your message should be awaiting moderation.

In theory - yes. Aren't more than fifteen hours of waiting time enough?
I see that message go waste out of the simple fact that it (like proposed by 
Darren) contains a screenshot jpg picture with 39 kB.
What a waste! :(

TO THE ADMIN OF THAT LIST:

Please raise the level to at least 60 kB!

>
> > Anything else (like the current setting) is a user-hostile pain.... :( If
> > someone doubts, just think about the possibility for users reading that
> > list to reproduce reported problems......
>
> Use of web space and a link in the message tends to work well.

As long as you haven't got your personal HP - no!

>
> >> Truncation at the first non-ASCII character... looks like a locale
> >> mismatch - this sort of thing can happen when something which uses UTF-8
> >> encounters something which isn't valid UTF-8. I can duplicate it here by
> >> installing the de_DE locale then running "LANG=de_DE xine" (the desktop
> >> environment uses en_GB.UTF-8).
> >>
> >>   $ LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 xine
> >> should work; if it does, you should consider changing your default
> >> locale accordingly.
> >
> > Sorry, but my locale _IS_ de_DE, and this worked fine for all previous
> > versions of xine.
> >
> > Changing this setting to de_DE.UTF-8 will cause problems
> > elsewhere........ This is no solution, but a very humble workaround....
> > :( And I do prefer real solutions..... :)
>
> Right; bug report time, then. (If you've not checked that, you should still
> do so; it's relevant information.)

Isn't one mail the the ML enough? Apart from that it's no real pain to solve 
that: You need an editor like kwrite and half an hour time to change the 
german *.mo file. That's all about it.

And you gotta get rid of that UTF-8 fetish ( i. e. "everything must be set to 
UTF-8"). Mess is the output, nothing else.

>
> > How about the audio channel problem (that's a real harsh bug!)?
> >
> > If I run arte on frequency 11836 with mplayer I get german language (as
> > it should be). If I take xine, I only get french language (which is
> > abnormal!), and I cannot change the language setting at all (which is
> > also abnormal, i. e. definitely buggy :(  )
>
> Build a snapshot from http://hg.debian.org/hg/xine-lib/xine-lib; there are
> recent changes which should make a difference here.

Thanks! Gonna try that!

>
> [snip .sig]
>
> BTW, lesson no. 2: "on the way, we stopped to admire the view". (As opposed
> to "stopped admiring the view".)


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