Re: XviD-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 1

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> 1. Diff between XVID0036 and XVID0037 (Louis Lancien)
> 2. Re: xvid installation (Pierre)
> 3. After installation... (Alessandro Vidali)
> 4. Re: After installation... (Martin Filser)
> 5. license question (Stijn Schuermans)
> 6. Re: license question (Christoph Lampert)
> 7. how to encode in linux (Mustafa Abbasi)
> 8. Re: how to encode in linux (Martin Filser)
> 9. Hi! (Canute Serrao)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:22:48 +0000
> From: "Louis Lancien" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [XviD-users] Diff between XVID0036 and XVID0037
> To: [email protected]
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> Hello,
> 
> I've a Philips DVD player (DVP630 with the lastest firmware 1109).
> I can read some XVID films and some not. All are seen without any problem 
> on
> a PC.
> 
> I've check the files with gspot and the XVID I can't read have all the
> string XVID0037 in the user data displayed by GSPOT.
> 
> I've seen a thread dealing with openDML container but it doesn't matter 
> for
> me : I read well films in both modes : AVI 1.0 and in AVI 2.0 (open DML).
> 
> The only difference i've seen is the number after XVID (but I perhaps miss
> others difference as the gspot window show a lot of infos).
> 
> What is the difference between XVID0037 and XVID0036 (or less) ?
> Is there another program than gspot I can use to check the difference
> between 2 files ?
> 
> Thanks by advance for your advice,
> 
> Lancien
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:27:43 +0200
> From: Pierre <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [XviD-users] xvid installation
> To: [email protected]
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> Pierre wrote:
> > Pierre wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The make install only put a libxvidcore.a and a libxvidcore.so.4.0file.
> >> It would be nice if it could also create a libxvidcore.so.4 and a
> >> libxvidcore.so file linking to libxvidcore.so.4.0.
> >
> >
> > The problem is always there with xvid 1.1.0-beta1.
> 
> The problem is always there with xvid 1.1.0-beta2.
> 
> --
> Pierre.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 14:42:12 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Alessandro Vidali <[email protected]>
> Subject: [XviD-users] After installation...
> To: Xvid Mailing list <[email protected]>
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> I downloaded XviD core library source code
> 1.1.0-beta2.
> 
> I followed INSTALL instructions...
> 
> But now I don't know what I have to do to encode some
> yuv files in mp4 format...
> 
> Can you help me? I'm a newbye...
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:02:38 +0200
> From: Martin Filser <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [XviD-users] After installation...
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> Hi,
> you can encode movies with mencoder ( mplayer package -
> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ ) and/or with transcode
> ( http://freshmeat.net/projects/transcode/ ).
> 
> See the manpages for details.
> 
> Greets,
> Martin
> 
> > I downloaded XviD core library source code
> > 1.1.0-beta2.
> >
> > I followed INSTALL instructions...
> >
> > But now I don't know what I have to do to encode some
> > yuv files in mp4 format...
> >
> > Can you help me? I'm a newbye...
> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:01:29 +0200
> From: "Stijn Schuermans" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [XviD-users] license question
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> Hi,
> 
> I have a question about the GPL license on XViD. I broke my head already 
> on the license itself, the FAQ from GNU and the different questions about 
> this in the forum, but I'm still in the dark. Since the forum doesn't allow 
> new subscribers, I'm asking here.
> 
> We produce a closed-source software based on Directshow, in which we 
> (among many other things) decode video coming from external devices 
> (cameras) for further image processing. As far as I can understand, if we 
> use XViD to decode MPEG-4, but we dynamically build a directshow graph so 
> that it selects "a" MPEG-4 decoder filter (which just happens to be XViD if 
> this is the one installed), then this is considered as just using XViD and 
> not as integration. In this case, we don't have to GPL our product.
> If on the other hand we explicitely use the XViD filter in the graph, we 
> have produced a derived product and we have to use GPL. Is this correct?
> 
> Supposing that my analysis above is correct and we don't GPL our product, 
> I have another question about distribution. We have an installable software, 
> but also an out-of-the-box solution for the professional market, which 
> consists of a PC with pre-installed OS and all necessary software. Suppose 
> that we want to deliver the XViD filter pre-installed too. Would this be a 
> problem? Of course, all source code etc would be included on the PC. Would 
> we fall in any way under GPL, or is a pre-installed PC considered to be just 
> another transmission medium like a CD-ROM?
> Also, is it enough that the software supports a choice of filter, or do 
> you have to give this choice explicitely to the user, in order not to be 
> considered a derived product?
> 
> Thanks a lot for your help. Legal stuff really isn't my strong point :-(
> 
> PS: a small technical question as the cherry on the cake ;-) Do you have 
> an idea of the DEcoding performance (fps depending on the resolution) of the 
> codec? We're decoding multiple streams concurrently and so performance is 
> quite an issue for us. Thanks!
> 
> Best regards,
> Stijn
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:03:48 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Christoph Lampert <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [XviD-users] license question
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> Hi,
> 
> I'll try to answer this, since I'm quite used to these questions by now.
> 
> > We produce a closed-source software based on Directshow, in which we
> > (among many other things) decode video coming from external devices
> > (cameras) for further image processing. As far as I can understand, if
> > we use XViD to decode MPEG-4, but we dynamically build a directshow
> > graph so that it selects "a" MPEG-4 decoder filter (which just happens
> > to be XViD if this is the one installed), then this is considered as
> > just using XViD and not as integration. In this case, we don't have to
> > GPL our product. If on the other hand we explicitely use the XViD
> > filter in the graph, we have produced a derived product and we have to
> > use GPL. Is this correct?
> 
> Usually, our policy is that if your software built in a way such that
> it can use any MPEG-4 decoder, i.e. it doesn't rely on XviD being
> installed or not, then it's not derivative works. If it fails to run
> without XviD, or if the functionality is very limited, then it's
> derivative works.
> 
> > Supposing that my analysis above is correct and we don't GPL our
> > product, I have another question about distribution.
> 
> In fact, all questions of "derivative works or not" are only about
> distribution. "At home" or "in the lab" you can create combinations
> of XviD and anything else in any way you like. The question if this
> is derivative works or not only enters when you want to distribute
> publically, to a customer or something else.
> 
> > We have an installable software, but also an out-of-the-box solution for
> > the professional market, which consists of a PC with pre-installed OS
> > and all necessary software. Suppose that we want to deliver the XViD
> > filter pre-installed too. Would this be a problem? [...]
> 
> Wow, this is a toughie... usually, our policy is that it isn't permitted
> to create something that to the user looks like a single application
> out of XviD and a proprietary program, like an application that
> automatically installs XviD when it installs itself.
> 
> Now, distribution by delivering a full PC, that case we really didn't
> have, yet. I would rather tend to say, let's ignore the medium and say
> that if the program does not explicitely depend on XviD described above,
> installing both an a PC and then delivering it to a customer is permitted
> whereas if your program wouldn't work anymore after XviD had been removed,
> then it is not.
> 
> But IANAL, either. What do you others on the list think?
> 
> 
> > PS: a small technical question as the cherry on the cake ;-) Do you have
> > an idea of the DEcoding performance (fps depending on the resolution) of
> > the codec? We're decoding multiple streams concurrently and so
> > performance is quite an issue for us. Thanks!
> 
> You can't give absolute numbers on that, it depends very much on the
> material and other factors. Simply download it and try yourself. As you
> noted, usage is not limited.
> In relative terms, XviD is quite fast, faster than DivX, almost on
> par with FFmpeg by now, and HDX4 definitely is fastest.
> On my weak 1GHz C3 HTPC on Linux, I can decode a typical 640x272 at 60fps,
> including video display, or 100fps without display.
> 
> gruel
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:19:45 +0500
> From: Mustafa Abbasi <[email protected]>
> Subject: [XviD-users] how to encode in linux
> To: [email protected]
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> hi all.
> my knowledge of linux and xvid is very little so please help me.
> i have just compiled the xvid source code i got from there website
> but i can not figure out how to encode the movies i have.
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:56:04 +0200
> From: Martin Filser <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [XviD-users] how to encode in linux
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> see the manpage of mplayer/mencoder and transcode
> 
> man mencoder
> man transcode
> 
> here you can get the packages:
> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
> http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode
> 
> 
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> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:13:40 -0800
> From: Canute Serrao <[email protected]>
> Subject: [XviD-users] Hi!
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