Re: Captures
Elisa Nectoux <[email protected]> Mon, 27 Oct 2025 14:32:45 +0100
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It should not have been visible in the Linphone >> app, as it cannot be read by third party software =E2=80=94this was a = mistake, >> and we=E2=80=99ll restore the previous behaviour soon. >=20 > Thanks for replying but I'm still somewhat unclear. My original = question: >=20 >>> What is the larger situation with smff? Is the assertion that it is = a >>> Belledonne-only thing valid? Why was it created? What Free = software >>> deals with it? >=20 > You just said "smff" is a "format", but from the git changes it looks > like an alternate file extension for matroska. Can people with = foo.smff > rename to foo.mkv and read them, or is it really a different format? >=20 > Where is the source code to read and write this format? I couldn't = find > it in the linphone git sources. >=20 > Thanks for ansewring about the nature of the proprietary license > offering. I've removed the questions that I think you have answered, > and left the ones where I still don't understand. (I realize you > probably need to consult with others to answer.) >=20 >>> What was the rationale for changing mkv to smff in the source code = in >>> February of 2025? >>>=20 >>> What is really going on with the sources? It is irregular and very >>> unusual to have commits with many unrelated changes from a software >>> engineering viewpoint, and that suggests that the public-facing >>> repository isn't the real repository, that there is an authoritative >>> repository someplace else, and that this is some kind of squash >>> commit. But if linphone is "100% open source" then this sort of >>> scheme doesn't make any sense. --Apple-Mail=_534876AC-C71B-4D61-A591-73421F18B08F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Thanks = greg, <div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99ll check internally to reply to = this last question :)</div><div>We=E2=80=99ll keep in = touch.</div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div> <meta charset=3D"UTF-8"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, = 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: = after-white-space;"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; 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= font-size: 14px;"><b>Elisa NECTOUX</b></font><br><span = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-weight: = normal; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><i>Sales & Marketing = Manager</i></span><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; = font-size: 12px; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: = 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br></div><div = style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><span = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal;"><b>Belledonne = Communications</b></span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; = font-size: = 12px;">, the company behind the </span><span = style=3D"font-style: normal;"><b><font = color=3D"#ff5e04">Linphone</font></b></span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, = 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; = font-size: 12px;"> project</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, = 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; = font-size: 12px; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: = 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><i><a = href=3D"http://www.linphone.org">www.linphone.org</a></i></div><div = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: = normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: = after-white-space;"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></= div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Le 27 oct. 2025 =C3=A0 14:29, = Greg Troxel <[email protected]> a =C3=A9crit :</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Elisa Nectoux = <[email protected]> = writes:<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">I=E2=80=99m sorry that this = caused any confusion. There was nothing malicious<br>behind it. .smff is = just a private internal format we created for<br>internal purposes. It = should not have been visible in the Linphone<br>app, as it cannot be = read by third party software =E2=80=94this was a mistake,<br>and we=E2=80=99= ll restore the previous behaviour soon.<br></blockquote><br>Thanks for = replying but I'm still somewhat unclear. My original = question:<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"> = What is the larger situation with smff? Is the assertion that it = is a<br> Belledonne-only thing valid? Why was it created? = What Free software<br> deals with = it?<br></blockquote></blockquote><br>You just said "smff" is a "format", = but from the git changes it looks<br>like an alternate file extension = for matroska. Can people with foo.smff<br>rename to foo.mkv and = read them, or is it really a different format?<br><br>Where is the = source code to read and write this format? I couldn't find<br>it = in the linphone git sources.<br><br>Thanks for ansewring about the = nature of the proprietary license<br>offering. I've removed the = questions that I think you have answered,<br>and left the ones where I = still don't understand. (I realize you<br>probably need to consult = with others to answer.)<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"> What was the rationale for changing mkv to smff in the = source code in<br> February of 2025?<br><br> What is really going on = with the sources? It is irregular and very<br> unusual to have = commits with many unrelated changes from a software<br> engineering = viewpoint, and that suggests that the public-facing<br> repository isn't = the real repository, that there is an authoritative<br> repository = someplace else, and that this is some kind of squash<br> commit. = But if linphone is "100% open source" then this sort of<br> scheme = doesn't make any = sense.<br></blockquote></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br></d= iv></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_534876AC-C71B-4D61-A591-73421F18B08F-- --===============0749898020294335655== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KTGlucGhvbmUt dXNlcnMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0CkxpbnBob25lLXVzZXJzQG5vbmdudS5vcmcKaHR0cHM6Ly9saXN0 cy5ub25nbnUub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vbGlucGhvbmUtdXNlcnMK --===============0749898020294335655==--