Re: Re (2): Setup Linphone with Brax.me Virtual Phone

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and then, there's this https://wiki=2Elinphone=2Eorg/xwiki/wiki/public/view=
/Main/=20

not publically editable, far from complete, up-to date-ness variable, but =
some information is only there, like for instance=20

https://wiki=2Elinphone=2Eorg/xwiki/wiki/public/view/Linphone/Remote%20Pro=
visioning/

and what you were asking for with your example question, may or may not be=
 in the same place as it was in 2020:

https://wiki=2Elinphone=2Eorg/xwiki/wiki/public/view/Linphone/Desktop%20ap=
plication%20Files%20Tree/

I couldn't agree more, can't overstate the importance of up-to-date and co=
mplete documentation for meaningful software freedom, and, needless to say,=
 documenting a change, is first and foremost the responsibility of who intr=
oduces it=2E So documentation lags behind because development is prioritise=
d? What would happen if development had to wait because documentaion needs =
to catch up? Someone will need to ask these questions=2E Not only at linpho=
ne's=2E

wheras brax=2Eme: it's their claim that you can use them with linphone, so=
 it's their responsibility to back up the claim with documentation=2E There=
's a youtube video (that I will not watch), and there's this:

https://brax=2Eme/img/bvpsetup=2Ejpg

you can't make that up=2E linphone docs shine beside it=2E

if you want to troubleshoot this, you need to turn on debug logging in lin=
phone, attempt the registration/connection, then find or obtain the logs, a=
nd try to read them=2E Alternatively, try using beforementioned web=2Earchi=
ve=2Eorg to pinpoint in *which year* brax first made the claim of linphone =
compatibility, then (back up your config and) try rolling back to a linphon=
e version from the same time=2E Their blog, hosted externally and behind cl=
owdflare at medium (oh my privacy=2E=2E), last posted in 2020, so maybe 4=
=2Ex ? That, in turn, may be harder to setup with linphone servers, and may=
 fail to negotiate codecs with newer linphone clients=2E=20

Here's a primer for the complexity you're looking at:

https://wiki=2Elinphone=2Eorg/xwiki/wiki/public/view/Lib/#HImplementedstan=
dards

and arguably, there are so many permutations of things that could go wrong=
, i=2Ee=2E be handled differently app to app (-version) and provider to pro=
vider, that it's defying the term 'standard'=2E

Let me piggyback this thread with my own question, then: who has managed t=
o successfully set up the linphone app to register & make working calls, wi=
th *any* 3rd party sip/voip service? Which? From which linphone client? Bec=
ause that's a 0/3 here, and I begin wondering what the state of the SIP/VoI=
P art is in terms of interoperability

On June 22, 2026 1:09:05 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Easthope via Linphone-users <=
linphone-users@nongnu=2Eorg> wrote:
>From:	"Julien Favre-Bulle" <julien=2Efb@belledonne-communications=2Ecom>
>Date:	Mon, 22 Jun 2026 10:03:32 +0200
>> There is a user guide for Linphone : https://www=2Elinphone=2Eorg/en/do=
cs/
>>=20
>> And an FAQ : https://www=2Elinphone=2Eorg/en/faq/
>
>Thanks Julien=2E
>
>A question I've noticed more than once: can contacts on my computer be=20
>exported to and imported from a human readable file?
>
>I'm not asking that again; rather it is an example of a topic I might=20
>address in a wiki=2E
>
>Thanks,                           =2E=2E=2E P=2E
>
>--=20
>mobile:  +1 778 951 5147
>VoIP:    +1 778 508 0020
>Bcc: peter at e a s t h o p e dot c a
>projects: en=2Ewikibooks=2Eorg/wiki/User:PeterEasthope
>
>
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<html><head></head><body>and then, there's this <a href=3D"https://wiki=2El=
inphone=2Eorg/xwiki/wiki/public/view/Main/">https://wiki=2Elinphone=2Eorg/x=
wiki/wiki/public/view/Main/</a>=C2=A0<br><br>not publically editable, far f=
rom complete, up-to date-ness variable, but some information is only there,=
 like for instance <br><br><a href=3D"https://wiki=2Elinphone=2Eorg/xwiki/w=
iki/public/view/Linphone/Remote%20Provisioning/">https://wiki=2Elinphone=2E=
org/xwiki/wiki/public/view/Linphone/Remote%20Provisioning/</a><br><br>and w=
hat you were asking for with your example question, may or may not be in th=
e same place as it was in 2020:<br><br><a href=3D"https://wiki=2Elinphone=
=2Eorg/xwiki/wiki/public/view/Linphone/Desktop%20application%20Files%20Tree=
/">https://wiki=2Elinphone=2Eorg/xwiki/wiki/public/view/Linphone/Desktop%20=
application%20Files%20Tree/</a><br><br>I couldn't agree more, can't oversta=
te the importance of up-to-date and complete documentation for meaningful s=
oftware freedom, and, needless to say, documenting a change, is first and f=
oremost the responsibility of who introduces it=2E So documentation lags be=
hind because development is prioritised? What would happen if development h=
ad to wait because documentaion needs to catch up? Someone will need to ask=
 these questions=2E Not only at linphone's=2E<br><br>wheras brax=2Eme: it's=
 their claim that you can use them with linphone, so it's their responsibil=
ity to back up the claim with documentation=2E There's a youtube video (tha=
t I will not watch), and there's this:<br><br><a href=3D"https://brax=2Eme/=
img/bvpsetup=2Ejpg">https://brax=2Eme/img/bvpsetup=2Ejpg</a><br><br>you can=
't make that up=2E linphone docs shine beside it=2E<br><br>if you want to t=
roubleshoot this, you need to turn on debug logging in linphone, attempt th=
e registration/connection, then find or obtain the logs, and try to read th=
em=2E Alternatively, try using beforementioned web=2Earchive=2Eorg to pinpo=
int in *which year* brax first made the claim of linphone compatibility, th=
en (back up your config and) try rolling back to a linphone version from th=
e same time=2E Their blog, hosted externally and behind clowdflare at mediu=
m (oh my privacy=2E=2E), last posted in 2020, so maybe 4=2Ex ? That, in tur=
n, may be harder to setup with linphone servers, and may fail to negotiate =
codecs with newer linphone clients=2E <br><br>Here's a primer for the compl=
exity you're looking at:<br><br><a href=3D"https://wiki=2Elinphone=2Eorg/xw=
iki/wiki/public/view/Lib/#HImplementedstandards">https://wiki=2Elinphone=2E=
org/xwiki/wiki/public/view/Lib/#HImplementedstandards</a><br><br>and arguab=
ly, there are so many permutations of things that could go wrong, i=2Ee=2E =
be handled differently app to app (-version) and provider to provider, that=
 it's defying the term 'standard'=2E<br><br>Let me piggyback this thread wi=
th my own question, then: who has managed to successfully set up the linpho=
ne app to register &amp; make working calls, with *any* 3rd party sip/voip =
service? Which? From which linphone client? Because that's a 0/3 here, and =
I begin wondering what the state of the SIP/VoIP art is in terms of interop=
erability<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On June 22, 2026 1:09:05 PM GMT=
+01:00, Peter Easthope via Linphone-users &lt;linphone-users@nongnu=2Eorg&g=
t; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre dir=3D"auto" class=3D"k9mail">From:	"Julien Favre-Bulle" &lt;julien=
=2Efb@belledonne-communications=2Ecom&gt;<br>Date:	Mon, 22 Jun 2026 10:03:3=
2 +0200<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=
=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">There is a user=
 guide for Linphone : <a href=3D"https://www=2Elinphone=2Eorg/en/docs/">htt=
ps://www=2Elinphone=2Eorg/en/docs/</a><br><br>And an FAQ : <a href=3D"https=
://www=2Elinphone=2Eorg/en/faq/">https://www=2Elinphone=2Eorg/en/faq/</a><b=
r></blockquote><br>Thanks Julien=2E<br><br>A question I've noticed more tha=
n once: can contacts on my computer be <br>exported to and imported from a =
human readable file?<br><br>I'm not asking that again; rather it is an exam=
ple of a topic I might <br>address in a wiki=2E<br><br>Thanks,             =
              =2E=2E=2E P=2E<br><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>
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