Re: No initial redraw

HiddenId <[email protected]> Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:52:44 +0100 (BST)
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Hello Laurent, Steven, and all,=0AFrom my point of view, AMAYA is the only =
wysiwyg web tool available on ubuntu, producing really clean html code. I'v=
e tried other wysiwyg apps, they are great, but the HTML code is not as cle=
an as AMAYA can deliver.=0A=0AI would say that AMAYA needs no other improve=
ment focusing only on "what AMAYA is able to deliver". =0A=0AHowever, it se=
ems obvious and clear that those "empty blank windows instead content" recu=
rrent problems could block many users.=0AIt needed times for me to understa=
nd that playing with horizontal / vertical mode in menu, or full screen mod=
e, solved the problem each time it appears.=0AThen, Laurent, I would say th=
at if somebody could fix this, then AMAYA will be considered as "one of=A0 =
The" real wysiwyg web development tool.=0A=0AAs you say, is works on a debi=
an, we may have a better chance to be helped by a nice fairy ? Maybe some w=
3c pixies will also have short time to contribute ?=0AAny way, thanks a lot=
 Laurent, because this AMAYA is really a very good tool.=0A=0APlus I would =
also add this informations that fixed my first AMAYA windows problem:=0A=0A=
When I installed AMAYA on my brand new 12.04 PRECISE PANGOLIN using gnome-s=
hell instead UNITY, I had some troubles because AMAYA was in full screen mo=
de only, and menu bar was not accessible. A post on french Ubuntu forum giv=
es the solution (post http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3D107590=
81#p10759081).=0A=0A1/ uninstall AMAYA=0A2/ via synaptic, suppress "global-=
menu": means suppress the 3 packs appmenu-gtk =A0 appmenu-gtk3=A0=A0 appmen=
u-qt=A0=0A3/ install AMAYA =0A=0AThis returns to a normal launch of AMAYA w=
ith access to menu bar.=0A=0A=0A=0AAntoine=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__________________=
______________=0A De=A0: Laurent Carcone <[email protected]>=0A=C0=A0: Steven =
Pemberton <[email protected]> =0ACc=A0: [email protected] =0AEnvoy=E9 =
le : Mardi 23 octobre 2012 22h42=0AObjet=A0: Re: No initial redraw=0A =0AHe=
llo Steven,=0A=0AThanks for using Amaya.=0AThe problem is that both Inria a=
nd W3C stopped their involvement in Amaya, and nobody is working on it anym=
ore. I continue to make some maintenance from time to time but I don't work=
 on ubuntu and this issue doesn't happen on debian. It looks like a problem=
 with an event. Amaya is using a quite old version of the wxWidgets library=
 and updating to a newer version represents a lot of work. I'll try to mana=
ge to run a ubuntu machine for some time so that I can make some debug.=0A=
=0ASorry for the inconvenience,=0ALaurent=0A=0ALe 19/10/12 13:03, Steven Pe=
mberton a =E9crit :=0A> I know that maintenance is low priority, but I'll r=
eport it anyway. I use Amaya all the time.=0A> =0A> Using Amaya 11.4.4 on U=
buntu 64 bit (12.04 and 12.10), whenever a document gets loaded (start up, =
File>Open, double-clicking on a link, etc), the display doesn't get drawn: =
I have to resize the window in order to get anything shown on the screen.=
=0A> =0A> I *think* it works OK with 32 bit Ubuntu.=0A> =0A> Best wishes,=
=0A> =0A> Steven Pemberton=0A> =0A> 
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hello Laur=
ent, Steven, and all,</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-s=
ize: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-co=
lor: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>From my point of view, AMAYA i=
s the only wysiwyg web tool available on ubuntu, producing really clean htm=
l code. I've tried other wysiwyg apps, they are great, but the HTML code is=
 not as clean as AMAYA can deliver.<br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rg=
b(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,se=
rif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I would say =
that AMAYA needs no other improvement focusing only on "what AMAYA is able =
to deliver". <br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size:=
 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color:
 transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>However, it seems obvious and clea=
r that those "empty blank windows instead content" recurrent problems could=
 block many users.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size=
: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color=
: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>It needed times for me to underst=
and that playing with horizontal / vertical mode in menu, or full screen mo=
de, solved the problem each time it appears.</span></div><div style=3D"colo=
r: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,tim=
es,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Then, L=
aurent, I would say that if somebody could fix this, then AMAYA will be con=
sidered as "one of&nbsp; The" real wysiwyg web development tool.<br></span>=
</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: time=
s new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent;
 font-style: normal;"><span>As you say, is works on a debian, we may have a=
 better chance to be helped by a nice fairy ? Maybe some w3c pixies will al=
so have short time to contribute ?</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; =
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Any way, thanks a=
 lot Laurent, because this AMAYA is really a very good tool.</span></div><d=
iv style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new ro=
man,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal=
;"><br><span></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16p=
x; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: tra=
nsparent; font-style: normal;">Plus I would also add this informations that=
 fixed my first AMAYA windows problem:<br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0,=
 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;
 background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">When I installed AMAYA=
 on my brand new 12.04 PRECISE PANGOLIN using gnome-shell instead UNITY, I =
had some troubles because AMAYA was in full screen mode only, and menu bar =
was not accessible. A post on french Ubuntu forum gives the solution (post =
http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3D10759081#p10759081).<br></di=
v><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times ne=
w roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: no=
rmal;">1/ uninstall AMAYA</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size=
: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color=
: transparent; font-style: normal;">2/ via synaptic, suppress "global-menu"=
: means suppress the 3 packs appmenu-gtk &nbsp; appmenu-gtk3&nbsp;&nbsp; ap=
pmenu-qt&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; fon=
t-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color:
 transparent; font-style: normal;">3/ install AMAYA <br></div><div style=3D=
"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new yor=
k,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">This ret=
urns to a normal launch of AMAYA with access to menu bar.<br></div><div sty=
le=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,ne=
w york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br=
><span></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; fon=
t-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transpare=
nt; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0,=
 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;=
 background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Antoine<br></spa=
n></div><div><span></span></div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family:=
 times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div
 style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: =
12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <hr size=3D"1"> =
 <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">De&nbsp;:</span></b> Laurent Carcone =
&lt;[email protected]&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">=C0&nbsp;:=
</span></b> Steven Pemberton &lt;[email protected]&gt; <br><b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc&nbsp;:</span></b> [email protected] <br> <b><=
span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Envoy=E9 le :</span></b> Mardi 23 octobre=
 2012 22h42<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Objet&nbsp;:</span></=
b> Re: No initial redraw<br> </font> </div> <br>Hello Steven,<br><br>Thanks=
 for using Amaya.<br>The problem is that both Inria and W3C stopped their i=
nvolvement in Amaya, and nobody is working on it anymore. I continue to mak=
e some maintenance from time to time but I don't work on ubuntu and this is=
sue doesn't happen on debian. It looks like a problem with an event. Amaya =
is using a
 quite old version of the wxWidgets library and updating to a newer version=
 represents a lot of work. I'll try to manage to run a ubuntu machine for s=
ome time so that I can make some debug.<br><br>Sorry for the inconvenience,=
<br>Laurent<br><br>Le 19/10/12 13:03, Steven Pemberton a =E9crit :<br>&gt; =
I know that maintenance is low priority, but I'll report it anyway. I use A=
maya all the time.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Using Amaya 11.4.4 on Ubuntu 64 bit (12=
.04 and 12.10), whenever a document gets loaded (start up, File&gt;Open, do=
uble-clicking on a link, etc), the display doesn't get drawn: I have to res=
ize the window in order to get anything shown on the screen.<br>&gt; <br>&g=
t; I *think* it works OK with 32 bit Ubuntu.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Best wishes,<=
br>&gt; <br>&gt; Steven Pemberton<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br><br><br><br><br> </d=
iv> </div>  </div></body></html>
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