Re: Amaya: call for relauching the project ?
Corne Beerse <[email protected]> Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:48:22 +0100
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On 19-3-2014 11:24, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote:
> Hello Antoine,
>
> On 2014/03/19 18:21, HiddenId wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> If you like using AMAYA as I Iike it, shouldn't we try to relaunch
>> its long term development, particularly, making AMAYA running better
>> with current and future version of web browsers ?
>>
>> For sure, we know that neither W3C nor WAM INRIA deploy resource for
>> AMAYA any more. As specified on AMAYA home web page "the application
>> was jointly developed by W3C and the WAM project (Web, Adaptation and
>> Multimedia)
>> at INRIA. It is no more developed."
>> However, if many of us email to W3C and INRIA decision makers, our
>> encouragements to decide to maintain AMAYA as a permanent project to
>> develop, should this have an positive impact for relaunching the
>> project with permanent allocated resources ?
>> Would this help to relaunch AMAYA development ?
>> Freely,
>> Antoine
>
> Sorry to not be of much help, but please let me explain the situation
> as far as I understand (as a former member of the W3C team).
>
> I like Amaya very much, too, and would be really delighted if
> development would continue (restart). A student of mine about a year
> ago also worked on adding HTML5 support to Amaya, her code is
> available at https://github.com/ezura/Amaya/. There also seem to have
> been others working on the code, see
> https://github.com/w3c/Amaya/network or search for 'Amaya' on github.
>
> However, unfortunately, it's not just that the Amaya project at INRIA
> is closed, but that its main developers and backers are retired. So
> there's nobody at INRIA in a position to push Amaya development. Also,
> INRIA being a research institution, simply adapting Amaya to newer
> browsers may not be such an attractive project.
>
> Anybody is of course very welcome to continue to work on Amaya,
> because it's all open source!
Good to see it is open source. It is sad but understandable that Inra
stops the development. If there is a future for Amaya, I think it is as
part of the next organisations:
* Google and its summer-of-code to boost the development.
* Sourceforge as that is where a lot (all?) small and beautifull
developments are
* As part of an other, larger product/project....
For the other projects, I think about a connection/combination with the
small and beautifull wordprocessor AbiWord (www.abisource.com): For me
as a user they both provide good basic edit fascilities without extended
exotic features. Here amaya can be the html processor and provide the
'under-water' screen, the most noticable feature of Amaya. Abi can
provide the wisywig-interface and converters from and to other formats.
An other, maybe strange switch can be a connection to the Calibre, the
e-book tool. This might be a little switch, as ebook formats are the
base there, however, as far as I know ebooks, they have a lot in common
with html.
Just my 2 cents,
Corné Beerse
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19-3-2014 11:24, "Martin J. Dürst"
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:[email protected]" type="cite">Hello
Antoine,
<br>
<br>
On 2014/03/19 18:21, HiddenId wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi all,
<br>
If you like using AMAYA as I Iike it, shouldn't we try to
relaunch its long term development, particularly, making AMAYA
running better with current and future version of web browsers ?
<br>
<br>
For sure, we know that neither W3C nor WAM INRIA deploy resource
for AMAYA any more. As specified on AMAYA home web page "the
application was jointly developed by W3C and the WAM project
(Web, Adaptation and Multimedia)
<br>
at INRIA. It is no more developed."
<br>
However, if many of us email to W3C and INRIA decision makers,
our encouragements to decide to maintain AMAYA as a permanent
project to develop, should this have an positive impact for
relaunching the project with permanent allocated resources ?
<br>
Would this help to relaunch AMAYA development ?
<br>
Freely,
<br>
Antoine
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Sorry to not be of much help, but please let me explain the
situation as far as I understand (as a former member of the W3C
team).
<br>
<br>
I like Amaya very much, too, and would be really delighted if
development would continue (restart). A student of mine about a
year ago also worked on adding HTML5 support to Amaya, her code is
available at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/ezura/Amaya/">https://github.com/ezura/Amaya/</a>. There also seem to
have been others working on the code, see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/w3c/Amaya/network">https://github.com/w3c/Amaya/network</a> or search for 'Amaya' on
github.
<br>
<br>
However, unfortunately, it's not just that the Amaya project at
INRIA is closed, but that its main developers and backers are
retired. So there's nobody at INRIA in a position to push Amaya
development. Also, INRIA being a research institution, simply
adapting Amaya to newer browsers may not be such an attractive
project.
<br>
<br>
Anybody is of course very welcome to continue to work on Amaya,
because it's all open source!
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Good to see it is open source. It is sad but understandable that
Inra stops the development. If there is a future for Amaya, I think
it is as part of the next organisations:<br>
<ul>
<li>Google and its summer-of-code to boost the development.</li>
<li>Sourceforge as that is where a lot (all?) small and beautifull
developments are</li>
<li>As part of an other, larger product/project....</li>
</ul>
<p>For the other projects, I think about a connection/combination
with the small and beautifull wordprocessor AbiWord
(<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.abisource.com">www.abisource.com</a>): For me as a user they both provide good basic
edit fascilities without extended exotic features. Here amaya can
be the html processor and provide the 'under-water' screen, the
most noticable feature of Amaya. Abi can provide the
wisywig-interface and converters from and to other formats.<br>
</p>
<p>An other, maybe strange switch can be a connection to the
Calibre, the e-book tool. This might be a little switch, as ebook
formats are the base there, however, as far as I know ebooks, they
have a lot in common with html.<br>
</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents,<br>
</p>
<p>Corné Beerse<br>
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