Re: Fwd: Bug#642391: dillo: sane default for http redirects [origin: [email protected]]

Benjamin Johnson (2011-09-22 14:47):
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:18:21 -0400, Axel Beckert
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >this bug report came in for dillo 3.0 in Debian Unstable/Testing, see
> >also http://bugs.debian.org/642391
> >
> >See below for my thoughts.
> >
> > ... snip...
> >
> >Until now I noticed the effects of filter_auto_requests just for
> >images and was quite happy with it. But with images you can click on
> >them and they will be loaded. This does not seem to work for
> >cross-domain redirects. And as annoying as URL shorteners are, I
> >usually do like to follow those redirects.
> >
> >Is it possible to separate the settings for images and redirects? Or
> >is it possible to allow those redirect on a case-by-case base?
> >
> >One easy way to do so would to display the content of the redirect
> >page which usually contains a link to the redirect target.
> >
> >		Kind regards, Axel
> 
> You know, this may be the first time I've agreed with one of
> Debian's patches.  Dillo's default setting breaks many major web
> sites, including Wikipedia, Google Images, and every photo hosting
> site.  This hurts Dillo's usability, particularly for new and/or
> less technically knowledgeable users.  The average user isn't going
> to stop and think "oh, these images aren't loading because they're
> hosted on a different domain"; he's going to think "Dillo is broken
> because this site doesn't work," and probably switch to a different
> browser.
> 
> (Keep in mind, dillo-dev probably represents a small minority of
> users -- those who are both technically knowledgeable and interested
> enough to subscribe and participate.  But good software can't be
> designed just for the minority.  Firefox isn't popular only for its
> technical merits, but also because it's easy for people to install
> and use.)
> 
> Granted, I like Axel's suggestions -- allow more fine-grained
> control, and display redirect links.  They're much better than the
> current all-or-nothing approach.  I'm just saying while we're at it,
> maybe we should also reconsider Dillo's IMHO overly paranoid
> defaults.  A lot more people would probably stick with Dillo if it
> just behaved like they expect it to.

I, for example, use Firefox with 'permissions.default.image=1', which
makes it show the link to 3rd party images instead of loading them. The
only place where I really missed images was Wikipedia, for which I added
an exception through an add-on.

-- 
--  Rogutės Sparnuotos

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