Re: Address bar keys (bug #1012)

Benjamin Johnson (2011-10-20 15:56):
> Johannes wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:16:34AM -0400, Benjamin Johnson wrote:
> >>Hi again,
> >>
> >>I was just wondering, could we add an option to control the address
> >>bar key bindings?  I know they're set to behave like a Unix command
> >>line, which can be convenient, but it also interferes with some custom
> >>key bindings (as one of my users mentioned in bug #1012).
> >>
> >>I've also noticed that the address bar bindings confuse a lot of
> >>people, since they're not used to the Unix behavior.  Conventionally,
> >>Ctrl-A is "select all," and other input boxes in Dillo follow that, so
> >>they aren't expecting it to go to the beginning of the line instead.

How should dillo behave when a user binds Ctrl-A?

> >Having it consistent over all text inputs and  configurable via
> >keysrc sounds reasonable to me. I don't know the keysrc details
> >though, so I might miss something.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Johannes

Having input/insert mode and macros in keysrc would be interesting, if not
too complex.

> I was thinking just a simple boolean option in dillorc -- and turn
> it OFF by default (i.e., no Unix keys), because it's not typical GUI
> behavior, and anyone who wants it on can quite easily set it in his
> or her own dillorc.

Would be a strange dillorc option. A real patch would implement this in
keysrc :)

Somehow I failed to notice that Ctrl-A for select all is "typical GUI
behavior", perhaps I am not using GUIs enough...

> Making it consistent globally would be a bit tricky, since we'd have
> to replace all Fl_Inputs with our custom widget (including in FLTK's
> stock dialogs).  Besides that, there's the matter of other FLTK
> applications -- would users expect them to behave our way, too?
> 
> Personally, I'd just as soon ditch the Unix keys altogether, but if
> we must keep them, let's let the address bar remain the exception.
> That way, we're not breaking the behavior either way -- new users
> aren't surprised, and old users can keep it as it was.

Here, Ctrl-A goes to the beginning of the line in all the input boxes
("find text", "web search", <input> in forms).

> Although I will add, the Shift-{Left,Right} bindings in the address
> bar *have* to go.  They're fine elsewhere, if a bit quirky, but in
> the address bar they interfere with text selection.  Ctrl-Tab and
> Ctrl-Shift-Tab are much more logical and convenient, anyway.
> 
> ~Benjamin

Are we using different versions of dillo? Shift-{Left,Right} doesn't do
anything here.

For the arguments sake, how would having to press Ctrl-Shift-Tab be more
"logical and convenient" than Shift-Left? It's a matter of taste (habit).
In my opinion, both bindings have a disadvantage: Ctrl-Shift-Tab is
difficult for the fingers, Shift-Left is unusual to most people. That's
why it is configurable, isn't it?

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