Re: Install question

Scott Kindley <ckindley-/Nmu/[email protected]> 09 Sep 2002 15:40:17 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.envolution.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 05:32, Mark Chaney wrote:
> How about only including 2 or 3 themes then or maybe just one and having
> the other ones as an option and a seperate download. Going through the
> different directories and chmoding all of them is about 6 times more work
> than a normal install. Im not saying that its hard, im just saying that its
> unneeded work. Especially when u consider that X-Industries, Liquid Logic,
> and LogicII are basically the same theme if u ask me. Also, like i covered
> in my notes for ideas for Envolution, it would be a good idea to have
> seperate packages. Minimal, Standard, and Full. These notes were written
> over a month ago, but if you havent checked them out, you can see them here:
> http://www.macscr.com/envolution.htm
> 
> Im not trying to be picky or difficult. Im just trying to make things more
> userfriendly and give a better first impression to users installing
> Envolution.

Agreed! User friendliness is an issue we will revisit often. However
instead of maintaining your notes on another website it might be prudent
to include them on list.

Or better yet, in the interest of a user friendliness, the feature
requests list at the SF site which is
https://sourceforge.net/projects/envolution/ where it can be better
managed and kept track of.

Zoom

> 
> -MACscr
> 
> > On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 04:53, Mark Chaney wrote:
> >> If i remember right, I have to install all themes with the install.
> >> And if i try and just remove the theme before install, i will get an
> >> error, right?
> >
> > Remove it after install!
> >
> >> The reason is, is that for people like me, i only want one them. The
> >> original, and then i will hack the heck out of it. =P Or maybe i dont
> >> want a theme at all and i just want mine. Because I hate having to go
> >> chmod a bunch of directories to themes I wont use.
> >
> > Another approach would be to simply delete the skins you no longer
> > require after install.
> >
> > It would be nice to have the option at install to select which
> > themes/skins get installed if any....but where do you draw the line in
> > the sense of how you package the release.
> >
> > For example I may not want the AvantGo module...yet many do...so isn't
> > it much simpler to delete what you don't need after install.
> >
> > What I'm getting at is that packaging the installer to cover every
> > possible combination of themes/skin/modules/features etc would
> > definitely be a nice feature ... but is the work required to design
> > implement and test such a feature worth the effort considering they can
> > simply be deleted after installation as desired by the end user???
> >
> > Not a flame...just another perspective.
> >
> >>
> >> Just wondering, i know there is a new installer for themes and maybe
> >> this will be addressed. Just wanted to bring it up. =P
> >>
> >> BTW, isnt it possible to tar up a file with the correct permissions?
> >> Does that effect file ownership too? If so, couldnt we just tar the
> >> files with the correct permissions already set to the config.php files
> >> and the cache folders? I know this would only affect people using unix
> >> and uncompressing the file on the server, but i think this would
> >> definately be a nice option.
> >
> > I agree with you here 100%.
> >
> > File ownership isn't affected, but permissions may very well be.
> >
> > And honestly this is my fault since I created the tarballs. I didn't
> > consider users who uncompress on the server itself. I'll make sure to
> > package future tarballs with perms intact. Good observation!!!!!!
> >
> >
> > Zoom
> >
> >
> >
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