Re: Install question

"Mark Chaney" <[email protected]> Tue, 10 Sep 2002 06:53:41 -0400 (EDT)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.envolution.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Good point. Sorry, I wrote the notes while i was gone for military training
last month and then turned them into html when i got back. What would be
the best way for me to add these to sourceforge? Should i divide them up
into seperate feature requests and submitt them with details plus a link to
my document? Just wondering what would be the best way.

-MACscr

> On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 05:32, Mark Chaney wrote:
>> How about only including 2 or 3 themes then or maybe just one and
>> having the other ones as an option and a seperate download. Going
>> through the different directories and chmoding all of them is about 6
>> times more work than a normal install. Im not saying that its hard, im
>> just saying that its unneeded work. Especially when u consider that
>> X-Industries, Liquid Logic, and LogicII are basically the same theme
>> if u ask me. Also, like i covered in my notes for ideas for
>> Envolution, it would be a good idea to have seperate packages.
>> Minimal, Standard, and Full. These notes were written over a month
>> ago, but if you havent checked them out, you can see them here:
>> http://www.macscr.com/envolution.htm
>>
>> Im not trying to be picky or difficult. Im just trying to make things
>> more userfriendly and give a better first impression to users
>> installing Envolution.
>
> Agreed! User friendliness is an issue we will revisit often. However
> instead of maintaining your notes on another website it might be
> prudent to include them on list.
>
> Or better yet, in the interest of a user friendliness, the feature
> requests list at the SF site which is
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/envolution/ where it can be better
> managed and kept track of.
>
> Zoom
>
>>
>> -MACscr
>>
>> > On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 04:53, Mark Chaney wrote:
>> >> If i remember right, I have to install all themes with the install.
>> >> And if i try and just remove the theme before install, i will get
>> >> an error, right?
>> >
>> > Remove it after install!
>> >
>> >> The reason is, is that for people like me, i only want one them.
>> >> The original, and then i will hack the heck out of it. =P Or maybe
>> >> i dont want a theme at all and i just want mine. Because I hate
>> >> having to go chmod a bunch of directories to themes I wont use.
>> >
>> > Another approach would be to simply delete the skins you no longer
>> > require after install.
>> >
>> > It would be nice to have the option at install to select which
>> > themes/skins get installed if any....but where do you draw the line
>> > in the sense of how you package the release.
>> >
>> > For example I may not want the AvantGo module...yet many do...so
>> > isn't it much simpler to delete what you don't need after install.
>> >
>> > What I'm getting at is that packaging the installer to cover every
>> > possible combination of themes/skin/modules/features etc would
>> > definitely be a nice feature ... but is the work required to design
>> > implement and test such a feature worth the effort considering they
>> > can simply be deleted after installation as desired by the end
>> > user???
>> >
>> > Not a flame...just another perspective.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Just wondering, i know there is a new installer for themes and
>> >> maybe this will be addressed. Just wanted to bring it up. =P
>> >>
>> >> BTW, isnt it possible to tar up a file with the correct
>> >> permissions? Does that effect file ownership too? If so, couldnt we
>> >> just tar the files with the correct permissions already set to the
>> >> config.php files and the cache folders? I know this would only
>> >> affect people using unix and uncompressing the file on the server,
>> >> but i think this would definately be a nice option.
>> >
>> > I agree with you here 100%.
>> >
>> > File ownership isn't affected, but permissions may very well be.
>> >
>> > And honestly this is my fault since I created the tarballs. I didn't
>> > consider users who uncompress on the server itself. I'll make sure
>> > to package future tarballs with perms intact. Good observation!!!!!!
>> >
>> >
>> > Zoom
>> >
>> >
>> >
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