Re: SV: [EP-underground] Implement EPrints Article

Stevan Harnad <[email protected]> Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:01:00 +0100 (BST)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.eprints.general
Message-ID <Pine.GSO.4.10.10208151158170.26997-100000@pandora>
My advice: Ignore the embargo policy (Ingelfinger Rule)
completely. It is not a legal matter it is unenforceable;
and it is rapidly on the way out: Don't give it a gratuitous
extension by honoring it even thought there is no need. Its
demise is long overdue.

Stevan Harnad

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, ePrints Support wrote:

> Thanks! I didn't go into copyright because I don't understand it fully and
> no advise is better than bad advise, but I'll look into seeing if I can get
> help adding such a section.
> 
> Are you familiar with the Self Archiving FAQ which goes into this in depth?
> http://www.eprints.org/self-faq/
> 
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 09:55:07AM +0200, Hugo Fjelsted Alrøe wrote:
> > Dear Christopher
> > 
> > We are right now in the process of setting up an archive, and I found your
> > article good and very useful in this respect. You touch on many issues that
> > we have met and some more. However, I missed a short discussion of the
> > copyright issue - it is afterall often the first issue that potential
> > contributers to open archives bring up. Something like (as I have understood
> > the issue):
> > In general, authors have the copyright for all their own original writings.
> > Usually, however, the author signs over all or most copyrights to a
> > publisher when publishing scientific articles and books. In these cases they
> > need a specific permission to deposit the version that is accepted for
> > publication (the post[-review-]print). They can, however, still deposit the
> > pre[-review-]print. Exceptions: In some cases the Employer gains the
> > copyright of original writings. Some journals  have an 'embargo' policy
> > saying that they will not consider an article for publication if the
> > preprint has been placed on a website with open access.
> > 
> > We want to require that our researches 'always' deposit full text documents
> > (including preprints), and we therefore have to address the embargo problem.
> > Do anyone have any idea on which or how many journals have this policy? I
> > only know that Nature has abandoned it. Examples of such a policy statement
> > would be useful for us. A list of journals would be even more useful, and we
> > will probably have to inquire and make such a list in our field. I am not
> > certain whether the embargo policy include websites open only to an
> > institution, for instance?. If not, a solution in those cases could be to
> > restrict preprint access to a large but still limited community (by way of a
> > password). In our case the researchers connected to our research centre plus
> > perhaps others on an individual basis.
> > 
> > Kind regards
> > Hugo Alroe, Danish Research Center for Organic Farming
> > 
> > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> > > Fra: ePrints Support [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sendt: 12. august 2002 19:27
> > > Til: [email protected]
> > > Emne: [EP-underground] Implement EPrints Article
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi. I've been working on the attached article as a relatively 
> > > non-technical
> > > introduction to setting up an archive.
> > > 
> > > It's deliberately not EPrints specific but deals with the 
> > > general issues
> > > which apply to any institutional archive/database.
> > > 
> > > I'm sending it to this list for comment as in theory you guys 
> > > are the experts
> > > in this subject(!).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > 
> > >  Christopher Gutteridge                   
> > > [email protected]
> > >  ePrints2 Coder, Support and Stuff        +44 23 8059 4833
> > > 
> > > 
> 
> -- 
> 
>  Christopher Gutteridge                   [email protected]
>  ePrints2 Coder, Support and Stuff        +44 23 8059 4833
>