Minutes, 6 April 2011 WebFonts WG call
Chris Lilley <[email protected]>
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Hello,
Minutes of todays call at
http://www.w3.org/2011/04/06-webfonts-minutes.html
and below as text for tracker
WebFonts Working Group Teleconference
06 Apr 2011
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-wg/2011Apr/0000.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/04/06-webfonts-irc
Attendees
Present
Vlad, +1.425.882.aaaa, ChrisL, jdaggett, tal,
+1.250.247.aabb, +1.250.668.aacc
Regrets
Jonathan
Chair
vlad
Scribe
chrisl
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]disposition of comments
2. [6]action items
3. [7]authoring test suite
4. [8]activity statement update
* [9]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 06 April 2011
<cslye> Hi there. I won't be able to call in, so I will mostly lurk
here on IRC.
who just joined?
vlad, we are getting a lot of noise from you. on a mobile phone?
(issues with spam filters blocking wg emails)
(tracker seems to have some issued tracking on www-font. works ok on
public-webfonts-wg. systems team is investigating)
<scribe> scribenick: chrisl
disposition of comments
<jdaggett> url?
[10]http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html
[10] http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html
for Change metadata section to use XMP
bert suggested to use xmpfor the extension
Vlad: seems very heavy for a rarely used key-value apir
ChrisL: agree
Resolved: reject
Wasteful to use four bytes to store an origLength
bert agreed there
A context-free grammar for WOFF would be nice
jdaggett: so much of css depends on the prose so we dont use the
grammar. ask dbaron tobe sure
ChrisL: no implementor seems to want that
jdaggett: woff is a format with syntax .. cant see how a CFG would
help
Vlad: agreed
resolved: reject call for a context free grammar
ChrisL: I responded on I18N-ISSUE-7: Paragraphs and inline content
Vlad: ok so action items
<scribe> ACTION: jonathan to add div and span to spec [recorded in
[11]http://www.w3.org/2011/04/06-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-82 - Add div and span to spec [on Jonathan
Kew - due 2011-04-13].
<scribe> ACTION: chris to add div and span to RNG [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2011/04/06-webfonts-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-83 - to add div and span to RNG [on Chris
Lilley - due 2011-04-13].
ChrisL: (explains procedure for unreplied comments: nospecific
timeout defined, just demonstrate best effort to get a response)
Vlad: ok and if we agreed with the comment we can assume agreement
by default
ChrisL: two commentors, Bert and Richard are on staff so i can
callthem and ensure we have a response
Vlad: looking at issue 18
18. license element text subelements
Vlad: thought we agreed there
[13]http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html
[13] http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html
tal: this is one where i thought text element could be optional.
have seen live fonts that do this
... willsend follow-up email
sylvain agreed
[14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0091.htm
l
[14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0091.html
tal: saw some with no license info, just url. so in woff that would
have @url and no text child
Vlad: spec says that element MAY have text child
... so its already optional
ACTION chris to add an example with license @uri and no text child,
validate it
<trackbot> Created ACTION-84 - Add an example with license @uri and
no text child, validate it [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-04-13].
Vlad: spec already modified
tal: ok, agreed that resolves my point
esolved: issue 18 license element text subelements closed, agree,
commentor agrees
Vlad: ok so that is allthe comments we have for now
action items
[15]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/open
[15] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/open
action-57?
<trackbot> ACTION-57 -- Jonathan Kew to respons on issue-14 -- due
2011-01-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/57
[16] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/57
ChrisL: don't see a response from him
action-61?
<trackbot> ACTION-61 -- Chris Lilley to provide samples and respond
to I18n -- due 2011-01-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/61
[17] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/61
close action-61
<trackbot> ACTION-61 Provide samples and respond to I18n closed
action-82?
<trackbot> ACTION-82 -- Jonathan Kew to add div and span to spec --
due 2011-04-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/82
[18] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/82
duplicate
close action-82
<trackbot> ACTION-82 Add div and span to spec closed
close action-73
<trackbot> ACTION-73 Edit WOFF faq with Johns text incorporating
Vlad's corrections closed
action-74?
<trackbot> ACTION-74 -- Chris Lilley to update disposition of
comments -- due 2011-02-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/74
[19] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/74
<scribe> ongoing
action-76?
<trackbot> ACTION-76 -- Maciej Stachowiak to ask apple about
proposed FO solution -- due 2011-02-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/76
[20] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/76
Vlad; keepopen until discussed
action-77?
<trackbot> ACTION-77 -- Chris Lilley to propose at-risk wording --
due 2011-03-02 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/77
[21] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/77
close action-77
<trackbot> ACTION-77 Propose at-risk wording closed
action-78?
<trackbot> ACTION-78 -- Chris Lilley to respond on Use of attributes
for human readable text -- due 2011-03-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/78
[22] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/78
<scribe> closed
close action-78
<trackbot> ACTION-78 Respond on Use of attributes for human readable
text closed
Vlad: issue-25 is rejected
my action is to tell bert its rejected
action-79?
<trackbot> ACTION-79 -- Chris Lilley to respond on issue-25 -- due
2011-03-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/79
[23] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/79
Vlad: thought I saw something
ChrisL: maybe tracker missed it. i willcheck
action-80?
<trackbot> ACTION-80 -- Chris Lilley to respond on issue-26 -- due
2011-03-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/80
[24] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/80
action-81?
<trackbot> ACTION-81 -- Jonathan Kew to provide link for issue-34 --
due 2011-03-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/81
[25] http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/81
authoring test suite
<tal>
[26]http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/tests/AuthoringTool/Tests/testca
seindex.xht
[26] http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/tests/AuthoringTool/Tests/testcaseindex.xht
tal: we added some clarification for authoring tools that do editing
before woff conversion
... also clarified searchrange
... otherwise its done
... apart fromm a cvs problem
(discussion of cvs binary issues and config)
action chris to find out from mac users how to set binary in the
commandline cvs
<trackbot> Created ACTION-85 - Find out from mac users how to set
binary in the commandline cvs [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-04-13].
tal: other thing is, after last call changes to spec, look for new
tests or remove no longer applicable tests
... for example xml;lang support
ChrisL: to be clear, that doesn't prevent us moving to CR. the test
suite can be incomplete
Vlad: we are ahead of the game here
activity statement update
ChrisL: i will update to show we have a test suite and almost
finished last call
adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: chris to add div and span to RNG [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2011/04/06-webfonts-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: jonathan to add div and span to spec [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2011/04/06-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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Chris Lilley Technical Director, Interaction Domain
W3C Graphics Activity Lead, Fonts Activity Lead
Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG
Member, CSS, WebFonts, SVG Working Groups