Re: Looking for contributors as part of Apache incubation

marijan milicevic <[email protected]> Wed, 3 Jun 2015 10:46:01 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.freemarker.devel
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Hi Daniel,

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Daniel Dekany <[email protected]> wrote:

> So, Marijan and Woonasan. I'm especially interested in what Hippo
> needs, what FM features you miss the most there, and what existing
> "features" you hate the most.
>
> Also, if in what topics you feel like contributing to. (Like Woonasan
> has mentioned Spring MVC integration. That would be very useful to
> improve.)
>
> (And again, there will be a TODO list to pick from.)
>
>
beside number of things Woonsan already mentioned,
I would also like  to see better IDE support...
Currently I am quite familiar with Intellij plugin API and in the past I
built Eclipse plugin
for custom language so I have some experience with Eclipse plugin API,
although this was long ago...

Other than that, on a personal level, I would be interested to learn (and
do) more about grammar/parsers/AST building
(I see freemarker is using javacc, I have some experience with antlr),


cheers,
marijan




> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>
> Monday, June 1, 2015, 2:33:52 PM, marijan milicevic wrote:
>
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > I would also be interested in contributing..I am (we are) using
> freemarker
> > extensively and I would really like it to become an Apache project.
> >
> > My apache "handle" is marijan (@apache.org) if you need more
> information.
> >
> > cheers
> > marijan
> >
> > PS:  I am one of the Woonasan colleagues
> >
> >
> > Daniel Dekany wrote
> >> We are (or mostly, I'm) trying to move FreeMarker over to the Apache
> >> Software Foundation. So far the reaction is mostly positive on
> >> Apache's side, but, the major concern is the low number of active
> >> contributors. If everything goes well, there will be a voting about
> >> letting FreeMarker in into the Apache *Incubator*, where it will have
> >> to build up some kind of community or else it will fail. OTOH the main
> >> reason I want FM to be an Apache project is exactly to improve chances
> >> of finding contributors, especially long term ones like myself.
> >> Obviously, one man (me) is not very safe for the users (like what if
> >> something happens with me, or I just move on).
> >>
> >> So, I just wonder if I can expect anyone to join the incubation when
> >> and if it will be started. There's lot of interesting but difficult
> >> tasks to do. Like better automatic escaping, a new parser that's more
> >> IDE friendly and faster and has better error messages, proper support
> >> of Map-s with non-string keys, better null handling, advanced
> >> white-space removal, better caching, better i18n, supporting custom
> >> "dialects" (i.e., changing the set of built-ins and built-in
> >> directives), public template introspection API, better debugging,
> >> Android support, and many more. It was just a glimpse. There's a lot
> >> of space for advancement.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >>  Daniel Dekany
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> FreeMarker-devel mailing list
> >
> >> [email protected]
> >
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freemarker-devel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://freemarker.624813.n4.nabble.com/Looking-for-contributors-as-part-of-Apache-incubation-tp4655445p4655448.html
> > Sent from the freemarker-devel mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
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> >
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Daniel,<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Daniel Dekany <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">ddekany@fr=
eemail.hu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">So, Mari=
jan and Woonasan. I&#39;m especially interested in what Hippo<br>
needs, what FM features you miss the most there, and what existing<br>
&quot;features&quot; you hate the most.<br>
<br>
Also, if in what topics you feel like contributing to. (Like Woonasan<br>
has mentioned Spring MVC integration. That would be very useful to<br>
improve.)<br>
<br>
(And again, there will be a TODO list to pick from.)<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></blockquote><div><br></div=
><div>beside number of things Woonsan already mentioned,=C2=A0</div><div>I =
would also like =C2=A0to see better IDE support...</div><div>Currently I am=
 quite familiar with Intellij plugin API and in the past I built Eclipse pl=
ugin=C2=A0</div><div>for custom language so I have some experience with Ecl=
ipse plugin API, although this was long ago...</div><div><br></div><div>Oth=
er than that, on a personal level, I would be interested to learn (and do) =
more about grammar/parsers/AST building=C2=A0</div><div>(I see freemarker i=
s using javacc, I have some experience with antlr),</div><div><br></div><di=
v><br></div><div>cheers,</div><div>marijan</div><div><br></div><div><br></d=
iv><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><font color=3D"#88=
8888">
--<br>
Thanks,<br>
=C2=A0Daniel Dekany<br>
</font></span><div><div><br>
<br>
Monday, June 1, 2015, 2:33:52 PM, marijan milicevic wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Hi Daniel,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I would also be interested in contributing..I am (we are) using freema=
rker<br>
&gt; extensively and I would really like it to become an Apache project.<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My apache &quot;handle&quot; is marijan (@<a href=3D"http://apache.org=
" target=3D"_blank">apache.org</a>) if you need more information.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; cheers<br>
&gt; marijan<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; PS:=C2=A0 I am one of the Woonasan colleagues<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Daniel Dekany wrote<br>
&gt;&gt; We are (or mostly, I&#39;m) trying to move FreeMarker over to the =
Apache<br>
&gt;&gt; Software Foundation. So far the reaction is mostly positive on<br>
&gt;&gt; Apache&#39;s side, but, the major concern is the low number of act=
ive<br>
&gt;&gt; contributors. If everything goes well, there will be a voting abou=
t<br>
&gt;&gt; letting FreeMarker in into the Apache *Incubator*, where it will h=
ave<br>
&gt;&gt; to build up some kind of community or else it will fail. OTOH the =
main<br>
&gt;&gt; reason I want FM to be an Apache project is exactly to improve cha=
nces<br>
&gt;&gt; of finding contributors, especially long term ones like myself.<br=
>
&gt;&gt; Obviously, one man (me) is not very safe for the users (like what =
if<br>
&gt;&gt; something happens with me, or I just move on).<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; So, I just wonder if I can expect anyone to join the incubation wh=
en<br>
&gt;&gt; and if it will be started. There&#39;s lot of interesting but diff=
icult<br>
&gt;&gt; tasks to do. Like better automatic escaping, a new parser that&#39=
;s more<br>
&gt;&gt; IDE friendly and faster and has better error messages, proper supp=
ort<br>
&gt;&gt; of Map-s with non-string keys, better null handling, advanced<br>
&gt;&gt; white-space removal, better caching, better i18n, supporting custo=
m<br>
&gt;&gt; &quot;dialects&quot; (i.e., changing the set of built-ins and buil=
t-in<br>
&gt;&gt; directives), public template introspection API, better debugging,<=
br>
&gt;&gt; Android support, and many more. It was just a glimpse. There&#39;s=
 a lot<br>
&gt;&gt; of space for advancement.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Best regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 Daniel Dekany<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------=
------------<br>
&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt; FreeMarker-devel mailing list<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; [email protected]<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freemarker=
-devel" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/free=
marker-devel</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; View this message in context:<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://freemarker.624813.n4.nabble.com/Looking-for-contribu=
tors-as-part-of-Apache-incubation-tp4655445p4655448.html" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://freemarker.624813.n4.nabble.com/Looking-for-contributors-as-part-of=
-Apache-incubation-tp4655445p4655448.html</a><br>
&gt; Sent from the freemarker-devel mailing list archive at Nabble.com.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
--------<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; FreeMarker-devel mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email protected]</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freemarker-dev=
el" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freemark=
er-devel</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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