Re: Any plans for a 100% wm syntax compatibility?

Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 1:16:31 AM, Jonathan Revusky wrote:

> Attila Szegedi wrote:
>> On 2008.03.24., at 17:05, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>>>>   - possible FM level debugger.
>>> We do have a debugger API for a long time, only nobody has written a
>>> GUI for it, as far as I know. Attila, can you say anything about the
>>> state of FM debugging?
>> 
>> Not much. There was someone on this list who embarked on producing an  
>> Eclipse GUI for it, but he did run into some problems, and I didn't  
>> have the time to assist him further... There's a basic support for  
>> remote debugging over RMI in the freemarker.debug.* package,
>>>
>>>>   - possible support for precompiled templates.
>>> I don't know about such plan... Precompiled to what?
>> 
>> Java bytecode, I suppose. We discussed it earlier and concluded that  
>> while it'd be possible, we don't see much point in it. Certainly  
>> doesn't look as if it's worth the effort... The templates are now  
>> executed by walking the AST. A prcompiled form would basically contain  
>> a bunch of calls to various TemplateElement.visit() methods, or maybe  
>> inlined copies of their bodies (say, for if and loops). We could  
>> achieve a marginal performance improvement, I suppose, but the effort/ 
>> benefit ratio is just too big.
>> 
>>>
>>>> - indirect advantages:
>>>>   - missing of the ever increasing Apache.org bureaucracy.
>>> Yeah. We are animals. :)
>> 
>> Barbarian animals,
>
> That was the idea of being Visigoths. OTOH, it seems that the "Hun 
> Software Society" is more accurate, at the moment. But that doesn't 
> sound as good IMO. It sounds about as good the "Goth Software Society",
> which is maybe at best a 6 on a scale of 1 to 10.
>
> But two extra syllables really makes a big difference and I think the 
> "Visigoth Software Society" sounds pretty cool, like maybe 9 on a scale
> of 1 to 10, and I haven't come up with anything that is a 10.
>
> It also presents a positive, progressive message. In the dark ages, the
> Huns and Visigoths used to kill one another, but now the Huns have 
> joined the Visigoths to pursue a higher goal.

What... killing the Apaches? :)
(Just kidding...)

> (Of course, probably back then they joined together sometimes for
> the higher goal of killing Romans,

For anyone living in Hungary outside a box, this will have a strong
second reading. :)

> but leaving that aside...)
>
> The point is that if this is possible, that means that the Irish 
> Catholics can reconcile with the Protestants or the Kosovars with the 
> Serbs or the Israelis with the Palestinians.

(And lions living together with zebras in love and harmony...)

> Even if it takes another 15 centuries or so, it is possible, and
> that is still a positive, progressive message.

Well, congratulations for this paragraph... What an utter bullshit!!!
:)

> JR
>
>> even (my son's playing Civilization on the machine  
>> next to mine...) :-)
>> 
>> Attila.

-- 
Best regards,
 Daniel Dekany


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