Re: [Freemarker-devel] interested in feedback with new template engine

"Joe Hudson" <[email protected]>
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I meant no offense.  I apologize for the disturbance.  I had contacted
Daniel privately to ask for his help with some of the documentation because
I like very much the way he is able to create formal documentation with a
user friendly kind of style.  He an I disagreed on the approach which is
fine - I still greatly respect his opinion.  I hadn't intended to make a
mention to this list but during my conversations with Daniel, he mentioned
that it would be a good idea.

As to why I started from scratch instead of forked FreeMarker:
- I really wanted this functionality (I'm sure some people on the list are
aware that I have been asking it for over 3 years now)
- Previously Jonathan had mentioned that what I wanted was impossible for
FreeMarker (granted this could be an issue with my explanation of what I
wanted - which is why I had contacted Daniel for help with documentation)
- I wanted to start from scratch and not to have to support some legacy
issues that FM has to (for example having '<' and '[' to identify directives
because I would like to have a greater distinction from XML.HTML nodes and
FM directives)
- I had other things that I wanted to get in as well and didn't want to have
to ask for permission or explain myself (allowing nulls, additional
formatting character '|' etc...)

I sent this to this list and not to Velocity because I am not a member of
the Velocity list and I respect not only the developers of FM but the
subscribers to this list like Max Anderson and other guys.  I just wanted
some feedback.  Sorry.


On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Jonathan Revusky <[email protected]> wrote:

> I only see it once. No big deal anyway.
>
> But why no announcement on the Velocity list? Maybe you think they
> would get angry and we won't... :-)
>
> Of course, somebody who still uses Velocity and hasn't switched to
> FreeMarker, why would they switch to ZipScript?
>
> JR
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Joe Hudson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > [sorry if this appears more than once - I sent it from the wrong account
> > previously and canceled the message so I don't think it will]
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have created a new template engine to address some missing
> functionality
> > that I have wanted in FreeMarker for a long time.  I would really
> appreciate
> > feedback from anyone that would like to kick the tires.  It is called
> > ZipScript and can be found at http://www.zipscript.org (which will take
> you
> > to the googlecode project page).
> >
> > Also, I am not terribly good at writing friendly documentation and would
> > appreciate anyone that would like to participate in the growth of this
> > project with me especially in the docs area...
> >
> > Some of the features that I have address are:
> >
> > - can define macro parameters as nested components (which gives you the
> > ability to create complex UI components)
> > - added a formatting character '|' so you can do stuff like ${myDate|"MMM
> > dd, yyyy"} or ${myDate|short}
> > - added boolean and object evaluators so you can get more than just merge
> a
> > template with an object model to get the string results
> >
> > Thank you all very much.  And, thank you FreeMarker guys for such a great
> > product.
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