Re: [Freemarker-devel] interested in feedback with new template engine

Good, I'm glad no offense was taken because that is the last thing I would
want to do.  I wrote a bunch of documentation between talking to Daniel and
submitting to this list including:
- Developers Guide: http://www.zipscript.org/docs/current/bk02.html
- Users Guide: http://www.zipscript.org/docs/current/bk01.html
- Quickstart Guide: http://code.google.com/p/zipscript/wiki/QuickStartGuide

I'm not saying they couldn't be improved upon, in fact quite the opposite.
But I did attempt to write documentation...

Joe

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Daniel Dekany <[email protected]> wrote:

> Monday, June 30, 2008, 6:00:21 PM, Joe Hudson wrote:
>
> > I meant no offense. I apologize for the disturbance.
>
> Disturbance? I haven't detected any.
>
> > I had contacted Daniel privately to ask for his help with some of
> > the documentation because I like very much the way he is able to
> > create formal documentation with a user friendly kind of style. He
> > an I disagreed on the approach which is fine - I still greatly
> > respect his opinion. I hadn't intended to make a mention to this
> > list but during my conversations with Daniel, he mentioned that it
> > would be a good idea.
>
> Yeah. However I also said that do it after you have added some
> adequate documentation regarding the differences to FM. Not that it's
> a big problem that you did it earlier, but things like
> object-parameters (as you called them initially) definitely need an
> explanation, so until that it's just not too effective to ask for
> opinions.
>
> > As to why I started from scratch instead of forked FreeMarker:
> > - I really wanted this functionality (I'm sure some people on the
> > list are aware that I have been asking it for over 3 years now)
> > - Previously Jonathan had mentioned that what I wanted was
> > impossible for FreeMarker
>
> (Um... did he?)
>
> > (granted this could be an issue with my
> > explanation of what I wanted - which is why I had contacted Daniel for
> help with documentation)
> > - I wanted to start from scratch and not to have to support some
> > legacy issues that FM has to (for example having '<' and '[' to
> > identify directives because I would like to have a greater
> > distinction from XML.HTML nodes and FM directives)
>
> The default/recommended syntax of FM 2.4 and later uses '[' too.
>
> > - I had other things that I wanted to get in as well and didn't
> > want to have to ask for permission or explain myself (allowing
> > nulls, additional formatting character '|' etc...)
> >
> > I sent this to this list and not to Velocity because I am not a
> > member of the Velocity list and I respect not only the developers of
> > FM but the subscribers to this list like Max Anderson and other
> > guys.  I just wanted some feedback.  Sorry.
>
> I don't think there was any problem...
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>
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