Re: Changing license to Apache License 2.0?

Oh, I'm totally fine with owner names' change.

Yeah, changing to 3-clause BSD would also work. I'm actually fine with
Apache too; if anyone's using FM with GPLv2, they won't be able to update,
but then it's at least a decision we consciously made.


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Daniel Dekany <[email protected]> wrote:

> The problem with our licence is the advertisement clause. With that,
> our license is not even OSI-approved (anymore?), and most importantly,
> many has complained about this restriction. To fix that, we could just
> switch to 3-clause BSD license. But I thought that if we change the
> licence anyway, ASL 2 would be better, as it's far more widely used
> and as such more recognized in the Java world. Corporate layers can
> have surprising ideas (like, some may will miss the patent
> indemnification clause in the future... I really don't know), so I
> thought the safest thing to do is to join the herd.
>
> That ASL 2 is incompatible with GPLv2 is a good point, however, given
> how omnipresent ASL 2 is in the Java ecosystem, I wonder what will use
> FreeMarker (especially a new version of it) and yet not have any ASL 2
> dependency. So is that a real problem?
>
> Note the other important change as well: the owner will change. Any
> comments on that?
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
>
>
> Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 2:55:45 PM, Attila Szegedi wrote:
>
> > I'm somewhat interested in the "why".
> >
> > The only substantial difference I see between the two licenses is
> > that Apache also has patent indemnification clauses. Admittedly, I
> > think that's a good thing, but I'm wondering if that's a substantial
> > need for most of our users.
> >
> > One specific issue where BSD is more permissive than Apache is that
> > BSD is one-way compatible with GPLv2 (e.g. you can incorporate BSD
> > software into GPLv2 software), but Apache isn't, specifically
> > because of the patent indemnification language that GPLv2 lacks;
> > Apache is one-way compatible with GPLv3 though.
> >
> > So, one consequence of the switch from BSD to Apache would be that
> > people could no longer incorporate FreeMarker into software that's
> > offered under GPLv2. I'm not saying that I'm against the move, just
> > saying that I want to make sure everybody understands the implications.
> >
> > Attila.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Daniel Dekany <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I would like to change the licence of FreeMarker from the 4-clause
> > BSD-style licence to Apache License 2.0. The copyright owner would
> > also change from "The Visigoth Software Society" (VSS) to "Attila
> > Szegedi, Dániel Dékány, Jonathan Revusky" (they are the current
> > project owners according the CLA) as VSS is inactive. This I would
> > like to do as soon as possible, like even starting from FreeMarker
> > 2.3.21.
> >
> > Attila, Jonathan, do you agree, or want something differently?
> >
> > Anybody has advices or any comments on this mater? (Like, if you
> > depend heavily on FreeMarker and have a company lawyer to ask, that
> > would great. All help is appreciated!)
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >  Daniel Dekany
> >
> >
>
>
>
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