Re: Re: Find bookmarks comments

El dom, 31-08-2003 a las 15:00, Tommi Komulainen escribió:
> On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 15:02, Ricardo Fernández Pascual wrote:
> > El dom, 31-08-2003 a las 11:27, Crispin Flowerday escribió:
> > > 
> > > 1) You shouldn't be able to expand the folders in the right hand pane,
> > > it looks very confusing when you do have the folder trees expanded in
> > > both panes
> > 
> > I don't agree. The folders are not expanded by default, so it is not
> > confusing. Unless the user wants to expand the folder it will not be
> > expanded. And not expandable folders are quite useless really.
> 
> I must agree with Crispin on this one.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I
> don't recall seeing such duplication of hierarchy anywhere else, but the
> suggested alternative can be seen in many places.
> 

Again, the folders are not expanded unless the user clicks on the
expander arrow. I can't see how that little arrow could lead to any
confusion. Removing it would be restricting the interface unnecessarily,
which I really don't like.

> Take, for example, any file manager with tree on the left and folder
> contents on the right, the right hand side is always flat, and you can't
> expand the folders.

I vaguely recall reading something about the mac finder allowing you
exactly that, but I have never seen the finder myself. (Anyone with a
mac can confirm this? or was it another program?)

Even if current file managers don't allow you it, that does not mean it
would be confusing. Actually, I think I would like it. I would allow me
to quickly look what's inside a folder without having to change my
current folder.

> Double-clicking on a folder replaces the right hand
> side with the contents of the said folder.

This can be done, but I don't like it very much. 

> 
> While the bookmarks editor isn't identical to a file manager, it's very
> much alike and following a familiar behavior is preferred, in my
> opinion.

Maybe, but up the point that it makes sense. I we wanted 100% ui
compatibility with nautilus we would be writing a gnome-vfs plugin or
whatever crack is necessary to show bookmarks as files. I think the
resulting ui would be worse.

> > > 2) double click on a folder in the right pane should navigate into that
> > > folder (rather than opening the properties window), ditto double click
> > > on the folder in the left pane should open it, think of a file manager.
> > 
> > About double click on the right pane: I think double clicking on folder
> > should do the same thing as double clicking on sites. Either open the
> > properties window or activate it.
> 
> I think double-clicking should be activate in both cases, at least
> that's what I'm expecting double-click to do. 

We could do this.

> And for folders that
> means expanding the folder,

In the rest of galeon ui, activating a folder means opening its contents
(in windows or tabs), fwiw.

> and for bookmarks opening the page.  At
> least in my mind activating means 'Open this thing', not 'Show metadata
> of this thing'.
> 
> Now, I agree opening the bookmark in the old window can be problematic,
> therefore I think we could do the same as from the command line, open a
> new window by default.  This would be in line with the behavior if the
> bookmarks editor were a separate application; activating a bookmark
> would in essence be calling galeon from command line, opening a new
> window.

Ok, this can be done. Now that we have the editing pane at the bottom of
the window the properties dialog is not as important as before. BTW:
opening in a new window is already the first option of the context menu.

-- 
Ricardo Fernández Pascual
[email protected]
Murcia. España.




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