Re: Re: Updated wishlist items

"Karsten M. Self" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.galeon.user
Message-ID <20050217135300.GG25547@localhost>
on Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 01:46:28PM +0200, Timo Korvola ([email protected]) wrote:
> "Karsten M. Self" <[email protected]> writes:
> >      - Detachable menus.  Controls.  IIUC, this is a Gtk option.  It
> >        would be nice to have detachable menus restored in Galeon.
> 
> As was pointed out, you can.  I recall that it used to be configurable
> in the Gnome control center but the UI has been removed.  Fortunately
> Gnome still has some useful options left in Gconf.

Yeah, consider it resolved.
 
> > Tabbed Browsing
> 
> Pet peeve: make the last tab draggable again!  I used to use this all
> the time to combine windows in 1.2.  This is bug 108872, reported in
> 2003.

Huh?

URL for bug?
 
> >   - Navigation.  Allow scrolling of tabslist *without* changing current
> >     tab focus.  Allow context-action (e.g.: right click)  on tab
> >     *without* changing current tab focus.  
> 
> The GTK notebook is horribly clumsy when there are more tabs that fit
> in the window.  It badly needs something better than the two stupid
> scrolling arrows.  Firefox provides a scroll bar, which is definitely
> nicer.  But this is a toolkit problem.

Agreed WRT toolkit issue.  The resolution would appear to be either
fixing the toolkit or using another.  We can't be the only group to find
notebook inappropriate.

 
> >   - Global tab list:  there should be a way to list _all_ current tabs
> >     in _all_ windows.
> 
> Perhaps in a dialog with a tree widget, grouped by windows?

Prolly someot like that.  The gconf / file selector thingie (rotating
triangle tree widget) might work.

 
> >     Probably also want other tab management actions: close, reload,
> >     move, bookmark, save (selected) as session.
> 
> I think this could also provide a good way for moving lots of tabs
> between windows.

Of course.

 
> >   - Grouped tab actions.  (Related to above) The user should be able to
> >     perform sensible operations on arbitrary groups of tabs.
> 
> You already can if you group the tabs into windows.  Except that there
> is no way to merge windows by moving all the tabs from one into
> another.  Perhaps this should be added to the Tabs menu.

Well....  If you could highlight multiple tabs, w/o use of a menu, the
action would be more direct.

 
> >     Current actions to individually close ~100 tabs on multiple
> >     windows is time consuming.  Reason for not closing the entire
> >     session was to identify any stateful pages (e.g.: web forms) or
> >     pages needing bookmarking.
> 
> Why not just drag the important tabs into a new window, then hit the
> close buttons of the original windows?

FIXME -- get back to this.

 
> >     Ability to group operations (close this list of tabs...) would
> >     be very useful.
> >
> >     Note:  this calls for a significant change to or addition to the tab
> >     interface.
> 
> I see two ways to achieve this without massive changes to the tab
> interface: 

>  - The first way applies to the case is where the target of the
>    operation is the contents of a single window.  The UI is largely
>    there already: the window can be closed, the right-click menu of
>    the refresh button has the appropriate option, Bookmarks/Add Tabs
>    As Folder is there.  

>  - Another way would be via the global tab list you suggested: a set
>    of tabs could be selected there and operated on.  Minimally the
>    dialog should support moving the selected tabs into a new window;
>    one could then continue with the per-window operations.  For
>    convenience other operations could also be supported directly from
>    the window list.

A third would be to allow users to select multiple tabs to activate on
the current tab bar.  <ctrl>-<l-click> is the group selector action in
most other widgets, <shift>-<l-click> is the range selector.  Identify
range, then the next close, move, bookmark, etc, action works on the
group.

> 
> >   - If MIME types are going to be managed within GNOME, *DO* provide
> >     access to the GNOME MIME type editor from within Galeon.
> 
> It seems that there is no longer any GNOME MIME type editor.  There
> used to be a nice one but it got dumbed down and finally removed.  All
> that is left is a lousy tab in Nautilus.

Gah!  Maybe time to reinvent that wheel?
 
> >   - Provide option to not ask for action again.  E.g.:  always save to
> >     disk, or always open with application, defaults.
> 
> The problem with the "do not ask me again" option is: what if you
> change your mind and want to be asked again?

Like duh!  You use the non-existant MIME editor.


Peace.

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