Re: What's next

Hey Chad,

Hmm, good point.  To be honest, I've never actually tried running
Drupal admin on a tablet/phone...

My original thought was not to *add* an additional toolbar - Gallery
already does a good job of adding the admin tasks to the existing menu
bar.  My first thought was that instead of refreshing the screen
entirely and reloading an admin_wind-themed view, just put up a
nearly-full-screen dialog box (not unlike Organize currently).  I
didn't *think* it'd be much more/less mobile-friendly than the current
implementation, but I could easily be corrected :-)

Take care,
Shad


On 22 February 2013 19:18, Chad Kieffer <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't have anything to add as far as the 3.1 roadmap is concerned.
>
> I see what you're getting at with the admin UI. Do you envision an admin toolbar/menu like Drupal and Wordpress provide?
>
> My only concern on dropping the admin theme is the impact on mobile users trying to run admin tasks. I don't know, maybe this is an edge case. Based on my experience I think mobile admin is moving away from the edge. Relying on overlays and dialogs seems to complicate responsive design approaches and favor a separate admin UI. Drupal's overlays are almost unusable on iOS 6 phones.
>
> - Chad
>
> On Feb 22, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Shad Laws <shad-xpYdmXCiSuZWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Adding to what Bharat said, I have a couple other big things I'd like
>> to see, too:
>>
>> - Add a few tweaks to our resize and thumb generation.  In particular,
>> it'd be nice to allow metadata stripping, progressive encoding, and
>> jpg conversion.  Also wrapped up in here is a bit more work with
>> imagemagick compatibility for some users' installations (disable
>> multi-threading, make version number searching more robust).
>> - Do a Flash->HTML5 conversion.  Specifically, swap out uploadify, and
>> add Flowplayer 5.  We can't *remove* Flowplayer 3 as then we'll be
>> breaking flv support, but I've seen some demos where people run both
>> (use HTML5 version unless video is Flash, then fall back).
>> - Remove the admin theme, and use overlays/dialogs instead.
>>
>> The last point probably needs a bit more elaboration...
>>
>> Here's my thought: if we compare Gallery's admin approach to that of
>> Drupal and WordPress, we seem to *mostly* fit that of Drupal.
>> Specifically, we embed a lot of admin functionality in the main UI
>> with context menus, etc.  I think this is a great fit to Gallery.
>> However, the admin back area remains detached, somewhat more like
>> WordPress.  In my opinion, this seems to disrupt the cohesive feel of
>> Gallery, especially once you use a non-Wind theme (since there are
>> zero contributed admin themes AFAIK).
>>
>> It seems like most of the basic building blocks are already in place,
>> and we can even leverage tabs to go between admin screens (again,
>> copying from Drupal).  I'd bet we can do this in a way that mostly
>> maintains backward compatibility with existing themes, too.  And if it
>> does break old themes a little bit, it makes sense to do this at the
>> same time as the jQuery update.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Take care,
>> Shad
>>
>>
>> On 22 February 2013 18:19, Bharat Mediratta <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey guys.  3.0.5 has escaped, so I'm thinking about what's up for the next
>>> release.
>>>
>>> Shad and I seem to have some momentum right now so I'd like to do some
>>> significant and non-backwards-compatible changes in this upcoming release
>>> and use it to kick off the 3.1 branch.  Here are the major targets:
>>>
>>> 1) Update to the latest jQuery and jQuery UI
>>> 2) Update to Kohana 3.x
>>>
>>> We've done the bulk of the work for #1 above, but there will be a long tail
>>> of finishing touches.  Haven't even started on #2.
>>>
>>> What other significant changes would you like to see happen in 3.1?  Now is
>>> a good time to speak up.
>>>
>>> -Bharat
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