Re: latest mac edition of Lynx?

Travis,
1, I am not installing lynx at all.
2. others have correctly answered the question both on and off list.
3. there is no need for further discussion, because the actual question I 
asked has been answered, with my posting the answer to  the list where 
the 
information  was sought.
best,
Kare



On Thu, 23 Jun 2022, Travis Siegel wrote:

> Look.
>
> I've already told you multiple ways you can install lynx for the mac.
>
> Not my fault you don't like the answers.
>
> Compile your own.
>
> Use macports or one of the other package management systems available on the 
> mac.
>
> Find a page that already has compiled binaries for the mac.
>
>
> There's other options too depending on how complicated one wishes to get, but 
> these are the simplest methods.
>
> Regardless of whether you like me or the answers above, the plain truth is 
> that these are ways you can run lynx on the mac, period, end of story.
>
> Take it or leave it.
>
> Asking the question again won't garner you different answers, since you're 
> clearly not interested in what I have to say, then feel free to ask away, but 
> when others give you the same answers, don't be surprised.
>
>
> On 6/22/2022 10:12 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>  Travis,
>>  I have changed this question.
>>  Please hear whatever you need to hear so you will choose to stop trying to
>>  justify your contribution, answering a question which as I illustrated is
>>  not what the person seeks.
>>  For the record, I have a work associate here in Toronto using a 2011
>>  macbook pro to run their business.
>>  So again, that you are not  actively engaged in running Lynx on your mac
>>  with  a braille display means that your contribution is not going to help
>>  Andrew.
>> 
>> 
>>
>>  On Wed, 22 Jun 2022, Travis Siegel wrote:
>> 
>> >  I actually do have a macbook, but it's a 2013 model, so it doesn't have 
>> >  the latest version of macos on it, which is why I said (assuming the 
>> >  finder menus haven't changed).  Everything else I said is 100 percent 
>> >  accurate.
>> > 
>> >  Lynx can easily be compiled on the mac if one wishes to do so.
>> > 
>> >  There are also projects like mac ports and others who do the compiling 
>> >  for you (although generally not as a native mac executable), that will 
>> >  give you a binary version of a program. I also explained that using one 
>> >  of these package systems once trashed my mac, and it may not be the 
>> >  option you would want to use.
>> > 
>> >  I also answered the question about how to run it from finder, with an 
>> >  explanation that a script might be necessary to create the environment 
>> >  you want, because I don't know if the latest version of mac os uses the 
>> >  same environment you'd get if you ran it from the terminal.
>> > 
>> >  All of these things are helpful to someone who knows what is being 
>> >  spoken about.  If that isn't you, then simply pass along the message, 
>> >  and perhaps the original poster will have enough knowledge to use the 
>> >  information.
>> > 
>> >  Again, I'm not knocking anyone here, but if you don't have the technical 
>> >  knowledge to understand the answer, that doesn't make the answer wrong.
>> > 
>> >  You then tried to make it look like I was deliberately misunderstanding 
>> >  the question, by stating something from the original conversation that 
>> >  had not been mentioned in your original post.  I also answered that 
>> >  question, albeit in a way that probably wasn't very nice, although it 
>> >  too was a 100 percent correct answer.
>> > 
>> >  I say again, if you don't like the answers you're getting, perhaps it 
>> >  means you aren't asking the right questions.
>> > 
>> >  I have never set out to deliberately offer false or misleading 
>> >  information.  Sometimes my answers may not be what the question 
>> >  specifically asks, but it's always at least informational, and (usually) 
>> >  allows the original poster to obtain the required information if only 
>> >  said person knows enough to understand the answer.  I don't know the 
>> >  knowledge level of the person asking the question, (neither does anyone 
>> >  else on the list), so you have to expect answers that aren't always 
>> >  going to be what you expect, even if they are correct.
>> > 
>> >  I freely admit that sometimes I answer the question you asked, instead 
>> >  of the one you intended, even if the question you intended is 
>> >  understandable, because I am trying to get you to understand that asking 
>> >  the correct question is as important as obtaining the desired answer.
>> > 
>> >  I don't apologize for my answers, just as you shouldn't apologize for 
>> >  your questions, again, if you don't like (or understand) the answers, 
>> >  it's easy enough to restate the question or provide additional 
>> >  information that can clarify the question, then you generally get closer 
>> >  to the answer you want.
>> > 
>> >  I do this, because I think it's important that folks ask the question 
>> >  they want answered, not the question they think will provide the answer 
>> >  they want.  A minor but important difference.
>> > 
>> >  I've seen mailing list discussions go on for months sometimes just 
>> >  because someone didn't ask the proper question.
>> > 
>> >  Like I said, I'm guessing the question that the original person wanted 
>> >  answered is what's the latest version of lynx that is already compiled 
>> >  and can be downloaded and run on the mac w/no work, and where can it be 
>> >  obtained.
>> > 
>> >  That isn't what was asked, so I answered the question that was asked.
>> > 
>> >  Simple.
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  On 6/22/2022 9:03 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> > >   Travis,
>> > >   By your own admission you do not have a working mac computer.
>> > >   While I appreciate what you believe you are doing, my hope was that
>> > >   someone directly involved with using Lynx in this system, now, 
>> > >  currently,
>> > >   can   answer this question.
>> > >   You may believe you are helping, but speaking personally, you are 
>> > >  not
>> > >   contributing to an actual meaningful answer.
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > >   On Wed, 22 Jun 2022, Travis Siegel wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > >   In that case, the answer is:
>> > > > >   Lynx is a text-based web browser, and the mac equivalent is 
>> > >  (wait for >  it)...
>> > > > >   Lynx.
>> > > > >   On 6/22/2022 8:29 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> > > > >    no, that was not the question at all.
>> > > > >    In fact, this person has a Braille display and cannot get 
>> > > voice > >   dream
>> > > > >    reader for  the mac to work well.
>> > > > >    i shared how I use lynx, load the .xml file provided by 
>> > > bookshare > >   and save
>> > > > >    it  as a text file, stating clearly that I am not   using 
>> > > > > the 
>> > > mac > >   to do
>> > > > >    this, or using braille  at all.
>> > > > >    Their question was.
>> > > > >    Karen, what is lynx, and what is the mac equivalent?
>> > > > >    So, probably for a conversation to which you are not  a party 
>> > > > >   indeed
>> > > > >    makes things complicated...and a longer thread.
>> > > > >    karen
>> > > > > > > > > > >    On Wed, 22 Jun 2022, Travis Siegel wrote:
>> > > > > > > >    The simple answer is that the latest version of lynx 
>> > >  available > >  for mac >  is the same exact version of lynx 
>> > >  available for any other > >  platform, >  (whatever that may be at 
>> > >  the time of asking).
>> > > > > > >    My answer was simply an explanation of how versions that 
>> > >  were > >  not posted >  on the web site (if indeed they were posted) 
>> > >  could be > >  created for the >  mac.
>> > > > > > >    Not trying to be difficult here, but the question the 
>> > > original > > person >    probably wanted to know is:
>> > > > > > >    What version of lynx is posted on the official site for 
>> > > > > > >  OSX.
>> > > > > > >    Since that wasn't the question actually presented, I 
>> > >  simply > >  answered how >  the original poster could obtain the 
>> > >  latest version > >  of lynx with some >  information about having 
>> > >  trouble with a > > particular package system, >  thereby warning them 
>> > >  they could use > >  said system, but that it might cause >  them 
>> > >  problems.
>> > > > > > >    Nothing says you have to like the answer I gave, but to be 
>> > > > >   perfectly >  fair, it is a valid answer, whether you like the 
>> > > answer > >   or not.
>> > > > > > > >    On 6/22/2022 7:59 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> > > > > > >     Travis,
>> > > > > > >     As expressed, this question is not for me, with your 
>> > > answers > > far > >    afield
>> > > > > > >     from the  simple information sought.
>> > > > > > >     on the lynx.browser.org page mac os x is listed as an 
>> > >  option, > > with > >   my
>> > > > > > >     recalling  a list member getting help using that edition 
>> > > for > > > >  site
>> > > > > > >     testing.
>> > > > > > >     However, that does not tell me what the current lynx 
>> > > edition > >   is for > >  mac,
>> > > > > > >     which is the question I was asked.
>> > > > > > >     best,
>> > > > > > >     Karen
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >     On Wed, 22 Jun 2022, Travis Siegel wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >     Been a while since I had a working mac, but last 
>> > >  time I > >  did, > > compiling >  one from source was trivial, and 
>> > >  caused no > >  issues. (this > >  is almost >  always how I handle 
>> > >  opensource > >  software), especially > >  since on mac, the > 
>> > >  macports they have > > that is supposed to make things > >  easier 
>> > >  trashed my >  machine > >  once, so I will never use that > > 
>> > >  particular cludge again.  On the > > >   other hand, the lynx 
>> > >  download > >  page does have various > >  versions, though I >  
>> > >  don't know if there's > >  one there for mac > >  or not.
>> > > > > > > > >     As far as putting it into a section on the finder 
>> > >  menus, > >  that's > >  easy >  enough (assuming it hasn't 
>> > >  changed), just use > > root access to > >  copy the >  program to 
>> > >  the folder in question, > >  and problem solved. On > >  the other 
>> > >  >  hand, since it's a terminal > >  program, you may need to > >  
>> > >  create a script to >  launch it with > >  the particular environment 
>> > >  you > > want, as I'm not sure if >  it > >  picks up the terminal 
>> > >  defaults when > >  being launched from finder.
>> > > > > > > > >     Probably doesn't answer the question, but it may give 
>> > > > > enough > >    for the >  original poster to figure out what's > > 
>> > > enough > >  necessary.
>> > > > > > > > > >     On 6/22/2022 10:26 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >      Hi folks,
>> > > > > > > > >      A question from the voiceover list to which I 
>> > > > > > > > > belong.
>> > > > > > > > >      I recall that there is a lynx compile for mac os X 
>> > >  but am > > > >   unsure of > >  how
>> > > > > > > > >      updated.  Also can lynx be say added to the 
>> > > > > > > > > browser 
>> > > > > > > applications > >     folder,
>> > > > > > > > >      or must it be run in terminal?
>> > > > > > > > >      Thanks,
>> > > > > > > > >      Karen
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