Re: lynx and webmail interfaces?

Then I am back to my source question, although perhaps without the web 
interface, a solid email provider where I can export my gmail contents, 
then  use that address as its replacement.  Afterwards establishing mail 
forwarding for my gmail account.
Must be able to reach them, which may mean doing what I already do for 
work, only hopefully to a setup more supportive of their email clients 
like alpine.

I respect the other ideas are more work then I desire taking on, would 
rather  reward a solid source with my business.
That is not going to be pannix, they refused to let me test ssh from my 
desktop.
Since email is all I desire, and news from fastmail is they are 
considering doing better but they do not support  the Linux elements i 
use, other ideas?
Thanks,
Kare



On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, Thorsten Glaser wrote:

> Karen Lewellen dixit:
>
>> my current access to both pine and alpine are tied to shellworld entirely, or
>> via the dreamhost shell service provided to my office.
>
> OK. If you can use these for eMail, you’ll be good then.
>
>> The question seems to be if it can be configured to access gmail,
>> including passing any security related factors?
>
> Googlemail is exceptionally bad at playing well. I have to
> use a Googlemail account for work and while I eventually
> managed to sending with it with alpine (it needs alpine as
> alpine has special code to work with Googlemail), I have
> set it up to forward to an IMAP server I run myself, as its
> IMAP implementation is so bad it’s not even funny any more.
>
> (In theory you should be able to access Googlemail via IMAP;
> in practice, you’ll hate the bugs.)
>
> I can only really really urge you to seek a proper eMail
> provider that supports standard SMTP and IMAP.
>
>> if alpine can do this,  can not some of the associated
>> tools be incorporated into pine?
>
> Unfortunately, pine is not only “end of life” but also has a
> problematic licence, which is the thing that directly led to
> alpine (short for “apache-licenced pine”) being a rewrite.
>
> So either you’ve got to use alpine with Googlemail and suffer
> from its shortcomings, or you can use either pine or alpine
> with good as any standard eMail provider that supports SMTP
> and IMAP.
>
> (A very small number of years ago, this would have ended my
> message; however, nowadays, there is another problem. If you
> use an old version of pine (especially for DOS) it will have
> been built with an old SSL library that cannot do TLSv1.2 or
> TLSv1.3, and more and more endpoints unfortunately require
> that. Running pine/alpine on an up-to-date BSD or GNU/Linux
> shellserver would work, or having a kind of “SSL proxy” on a
> machine that supports both the old and new protocols (which
> is something I set up for myself with a pair of stunnel4
> services), or having an SMTP and IMAP server on a box that
> supports the old TLSv1.0 protocol and ciphersuites, which
> often can be configured even on systems like Debian 11 that
> do not accept these out of the box any more.)
>
> bye,
> //mirabilos
> -- 
>> emacs als auch vi zum Kotzen finde (joe rules) und pine für den einzig
>> bedienbaren textmode-mailclient halte (und ich hab sie alle ausprobiert). ;)
> Hallooooo, ich bin der Holger ("Hallo Holger!"), und ich bin ebenfalls
> ... pine-User, und das auch noch gewohnheitsmäßig ("Oooooooohhh").  [aus dasr]
>