Re: Can I use Lynx to archive-as-I-browse in a queue-based workflow?

"James R. Haigh \(+ML.NonGNU.Lynx subaddress\) via Lynx-dev" <[email protected]> Thu, 4 Dec 2025 11:10:13 +0000
Newsgroups	gmane.comp.web.lynx.devel
Message-ID	<20251204111013.2792fe81@jrhaighs-debian-x200>
Hi Mouse,

At Z-0500=2025-12-03Wed18:18:36, Mouse sent:
> >     What I'd like to be able to do is to browse, but as I am browsing, to ke$  
> 
> It would help readability if you'd avoid paragraph-length lines.

    I love plaintext email aside from just this one issue.  But if u insist.
For me, readability is about not breaking sentences at arbitrary places. :-(
Screen real-estate too.  My line length is a whopping 256 characters! :-D
This arises from using a 5x8px bitmap font on a 1280x800px display. ;-)

> (If you want the recipient to reflow the text, RFC3676 is your friend.)

    Yes, reflow is what I'm after!  I've heard there was that other way.
Sadly,my plaintext-loving email client does not seem to support RFC3676. :-(
At least I don't see how to enable it. For now,I'll reflow manually for you.
Like this!  Even though I know email can support line lengths of upto 1024B.
I limit my paragraph length to just short of this,allowing 4 some quotation.
There's widespread support for rewrapping this, so what's the problem? :-/
It's just a parameter change rather than a whole RFC implementation! ;-)

> For the archiving, the simplest thing that comes to mind is to set
> yourself up with a local proxy that simply passes along the content
> but, in the process, keeps a record of whatever you're interested in.

    It has crossed my mind but I don't know how to, or which proxy is best.
I know that even for HTTPS, this is possible; WireShark documents how.
Uses the session keys.  It would be a somewhat browser-agnostic solution.

> For breadth-first browsing (the queue-of-URLs thing),

    Oh cool, you've identified this exactly the same way that I have! :-D
I've been telling people about the computer-science backing of queues.
That Breadth-First Search can cope with infinite trees, & is queue-based.
Whereas the stack-based Depth-First Search we use is prone to rabbitholing!
It has gone over most people's heads, so I didn't mention it yesterday.
Tried to be a little briefer.  Yet this time the point was raised not by me!

    Don't get me wrong - I love stacks too!  I love stack-based programming!
Stacks are powerful in their own rite,enabling postfix languages like Forth.
They allow 4 concatenativity & work very well w a functional discipline. :-D
But it is important 2 balance between stacks&queues 2 avoid the rabbitholes!

> that's a bit harder.
> I wrote a lynx wrapper that could do it, but it makes the
> "look at this URL later" rather more complicated than would be ideal.

    I'd be very interested to know how this can be done from a wrapper. :-)
When it comes to wrapper scripts, I seem to be in my element. :-D
The graphical browser that I use is called Uzbl (pronounced "useable").
One thing I love about Uzbl is its extensibility via scripting. :-D
I have plans to merge some of the scripts across both Uzbl & Lynx/W3M.

> It could be improved greatly with the help of a little hackery on lynx,
> but I never bothered -

    It is the hackery on Lynx where I'd be wholely out of my depth. :-/
If you could do that part it would greatly enable my script-based hackery.

> about the time I might have, the Web collectively decided to insist
> everyone speak HTTPS, which I refuse to put up with,
> so I don't use the Web much any longer.

    I'm in 2 minds about HTTPS. :-/  On one hand I see the benefits.
I also know how to configure a website that passes 100% at Internet.NL .
On the other hand, I recognise that it is a rolling source of deprecation.
I very much disagree with deprecation or planned obsolescence.
So I can relate to you on this point of insisting everyone use it is bad.

> /~\ The ASCII				  Mouse
> \ / Ribbon Campaign
>  X  Against HTML		[email protected]
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    Oh wow, I've not seen a ribbon campaign as ASCII before -- nice! :-D
I'm aware of the Any Browser campaign & JS-free, but this one's new to me!

    Relatedly,I tried 2 start th counterpart 2 HTML email Wikipedia article.
But sadly my page on plaintext email got shot-down and disposed-of. :-(
But if HTML email is an article, then why not its counterpart?  It's wrong!
So a good next step in this campaign is to get that Wikipedia article back.
It's important 4 the cause that ppl can read that plaintxt email is a thing.
They were overly picky about my references, but they didn't help add more.
Instead they removed my references,then complaind that the article had none.
Then they moved the article to draft space, then they deleted it completely.
So there continues to b a hole there;its counterpart exists,but it does not.

Kind regards,
James.
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