Re: lynx and amazon?

Oh I can top that
the sign in page has no alt tags  letting you know where to place e-mail 
address or password, and is 15 pages long with no functional links on 
almost all of them.



On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> If you can't get past the graphical captcha that accessible page is
> useless.
>
> On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 12:29:43
>> From: Karen Lewellen <[email protected]>
>> To: Jude DaShiell <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Alejandro Lieber <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon?
>>
>> Jude,
>> Your comment about the cell phone is quite important, because amazon is
>> presenting  the www.amazon.com/access page for  those wanting a simplified
>> experience, stating it is comparative to the mobile one.
>> Alejandro, I echo  Jude's question about the audio challenge, since others
>> here even without using a screen reader, cannot play it.
>> Likewise I take it amazon is accepting all of your lynx cookies?  You are not
>> getting the error requesting that you turn cookies  on?
>> lastly, which ms dos are you running, and how did you install that edition of
>> Lynx?  My understanding was that there were windows binaries only, not dos
>> ones.
>> While I do not   wish to  make this about the use of screen readers, I am
>> interested if your experience differs from those reported by others  where
>> this amazon issue is concerned.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure it does, you don't use a screen reader though which means you
>>> have no trouble with the captcha.  Have you tried playing the audio
>>> challenge and if so were you able to hear it?  What's happening with
>>> lynx and amazon is also happening on cell phones too.  I did a factory
>>> reset on the cell phone and accessibility won't be enabled until Staff
>>> comes over and turns it on for me.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Alejandro Lieber wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 07:00:13
>>>> From: Alejandro Lieber <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon?
>>>>
>>>> Karen:
>>>>
>>>> I use LYNX ver 2.9.0dev.1 in my MSDOS computer with a 40MHz Cyrix 486DLC
>>>> and 8
>>>> MBy RAM and yellow Hercules monitor. Works great.
>>>>
>>>> Alejandro Lieber
>>>>
>>>> A port for MSDOS, by Ju?n Manuel Guerrero:
>>>>
>>>> "This is a port of Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 to MSDOS/DJGPP.
>>>>
>>>> ? DJGPP specific changes.
>>>> ? =======================
>>>> ? This port is based on the current develop code of lynx (aka
>>>> lynx2.9.0dev.4)
>>>> ? available as:
>>>> https://invisible-mirror.net/archives/lynx/tarballs/lynx-cur.tar.bz2
>>>>
>>>> ? The code has been adjusted to detect at runtime if LFN support is
>>>> available
>>>> ? or not.? If LFN support is available then the original posix style file
>>>> ? names will be used else DOS compatible ones will be used.
>>>>
>>>> ? The port will use cp850 as default code page instead of using iso-8859-1
>>>> as
>>>> ? it is in the current code.? It is clear that having iso-8859-1 on plain
>>>> DOS
>>>> ? as character set is useless as soon as spanish, german or other
>>>> non-english
>>>> ? texts shall be displayed.? You can always select another character set by
>>>> ? either setting the corresponding environment variable or by editing
>>>> lynx.cfg
>>>> ? acordingly.
>>>>
>>>> ? The current version of lynx requires that the HOME environment variable
>>>> is
>>>> ? set to a writable directory or it will refuse to start.? To alleviate
>>>> this
>>>> ? situation, if HOME is not set, the current directory will be used instead
>>>> ? by this port version.
>>>>
>>>> ? The port has been configured using the configure script provided by the
>>>> ? source package.? This means that neither old DJGPP specific scripts nor
>>>> ? makefiles distributed by the package have been used.? A lot of the
>>>> porting
>>>> ? work has been invested in the DJGPP specific configuration scripts.
>>>>
>>>> ? This port has been configured to be compiled with BZIP2, ZIP and PDCURSES
>>>> ? support.? This means that if you want to recompile the preconfigured
>>>> sources
>>>> ? you must have installed the following ports:
>>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2apps/bz2-106ar2.zip
>>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/zlb1211b.zip
>>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/pdcur38a.zip
>>>>
>>>> ? The port has been configured and build without NLS support enabled.
>>>> ? To enable this feature, the latest ports of libiconv and gettext must be
>>>> ? installed:
>>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/licv116b.zip
>>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/gtxt201b.zip
>>>> ? If you prefer NLS, then reconfigure the sources passing the nls flag to
>>>> the
>>>> ? config.bat file.
>>>>
>>>> ? The port has been configured with OPENSSL support.? OpenSSL support
>>>> requires
>>>> ? installing the WATT-32 port.? The following ports have been used:
>>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/ssl102sb.zip
>>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/wat3211b.zip
>>>> ? No other versions have been tested.? To be able to use this program
>>>> compiled
>>>> ? with OpenSSL and WATT-32 a noise source must be installed.? A noise
>>>> source
>>>> ? can be obtained as:
>>>> http://www.rahul.net/dkaufman/noise063a2.zip
>>>> ? If for some reason you decide to reconfigure the source package, then you
>>>> ? will have to set the WATT_ROOT environment variable to point to the
>>>> ? directory where the headers and the library reside.? This is:
>>>> ??? set WATT_ROOT=/dev/env/DJDIR/net/watt
>>>>
>>>> ? To be able to run the program, configuration files are expected to be
>>>> found
>>>> ? at their canonical place.? This is the /dev/env/DJDIR/etc directory.? The
>>>> ? configuration files lynx.cfg and lynx.css are stored in the /etc
>>>> directory
>>>> ? and reflect, to certain extent, the conditions during the configuration
>>>> and
>>>> ? compilation process of this port.? You may need to adjust the entries to
>>>> fit
>>>> ? your requiriments.? If lynx.cfg and lynx.css are not found at their
>>>> canonical
>>>> ? place then the program will try to load them from the installation
>>>> directory
>>>> ? of lynx.? To run the program, a working version of wattcp.cfg is
>>>> required.
>>>> ? This file is __NOT__ distributed with this port.? That file will reflect
>>>> ? your network environment and hardware.? It is the user's job write
>>>> one that
>>>> ? matches his environment.? As a starting point you can use the one
>>>> distributed
>>>> ? with the WATT-32 port.? Please note that the location of wattcp.cfg must
>>>> be
>>>> ? specified by setting the WATTCP.CFG environment variable.? This can be
>>>> done
>>>> ? either in the environment, in autoexec.bat or in djgpp.env.? If the file
>>>> ? cannot be found at any of the canonical places the program will try
>>>> to load
>>>> ? it from the installation directory of lynx.
>>>>
>>>> ? To be able to run the program, a DOS packet driver (PKTDRVR) is required.
>>>> ? This may be obtained from the card manufacturer or from one of the
>>>> archives
>>>> ? of packet drivers (such as
>>>> "http://www.lanet.lv/simtel.net/msdos/pktdrvr-pre.html"
>>>> ? or
>>>> "http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/pktdrvr/").
>>>> ? Even when only browsing local files, a NULLPKT packet driver is required
>>>> like
>>>> ? nullpkt.zip.? The zip file can be downloaded as:
>>>> http://www.jumpjet.info/Application-Software/DOS/Hardware/2/NULLPKT/NULLPKT.zip
>>>>
>>>> ? The lynx executable itself handles http:, https:, ftp:, file:, news:,
>>>> nntp:
>>>> ? and gopher: protocols. You will need external programs if you want to
>>>> access
>>>> ? telnet:, tn3270:, or mailto: URLs.? In this case a port of kermit may be
>>>> ? required.
>>>>
>>>> ? Please note that lynx does _NOT_ support javascript at all.? So nothing
>>>> will
>>>> ? work that requires this feature.? If you need this, look for a different
>>>> text
>>>> ? web browser.
>>>>
>>>> ? It is important to realize that this port is a _PURE_ DOS port.? If for
>>>> some
>>>> ? reason you want to use lynx under Windows, you should download a windows
>>>> port
>>>> ? of lynx.
>>>>
>>>> ? If you decide to use this port as stand alone program then you can set
>>>> the
>>>> ? following environment variables to point to the required configuration
>>>> files:
>>>> ??? LYNX_CFG????? Set to the full path and filename for lynx.cfg
>>>> ??? LYNX_LSS????? Set to the full path and filename for lynx.lss
>>>> ??? WATTCP.CFG??? Set to the full path for the WATTCP.CFG directory
>>>> ??? SSL_CERT_FILE Set to the full path and filename for your file of
>>>> ????????????????? trusted certificates
>>>> ? As a last resort, if the above environment variables are not set, the
>>>> ? program will try to load those files from its installation directory.
>>>> ? There is also a batch file stored in the /share/lynx_doc/samples
>>>> directory
>>>> ? that shows how to run lynx as a stand alone application.
>>>>
>>>> ? The DJGPP port now checks the OS version it is running on.? If it is
>>>> equal
>>>> ? or less than MSDOS 6.22 the double quotes around the file name passed to
>>>> ? edit.com will be removed.? If this is not done, edit.com refuses to
>>>> start.
>>>> ? For OS like Win95 and above this is not necessary.? edit.com is the
>>>> editor
>>>> ? used by lynx at last resort.? The program's behaviour is not changed if
>>>> an
>>>> ? editor different from edit.com is selected in lynx.cfg.
>>>>
>>>> ? The DJGPP port now checks if LFN support is available.? If available then
>>>> ? files with a leading dot are allowed/supported in case that this has been
>>>> ? allowed by setting NO_DOT_FILES to FALSE in lynx.cfg.? In all previous
>>>> ? versions, the setting of this value had absolute no influence in
>>>> program's
>>>> ? behavior if compiled with DJGPP.
>>>>
>>>> ? When connecting to a site via https, lynx will require that a file of
>>>> ? trusted certificates is available.? It is your's responsability to
>>>> create
>>>> ? such a file and the port will _NEVER_ provide one.? This .PEM file is
>>>> created
>>>> ? using openssl tools.? Read the openssl documentation.? A working linux
>>>> ? installation provides always one.? It may be found by its name
>>>> ca-bundle.pem
>>>> ? or similar.? In the end it must be a file in PEM format.? Store it where
>>>> you
>>>> ? like and point to it by setting the corresponding lynx environment
>>>> variable
>>>> ? like this:
>>>> ??? set SSL_CERT_FILE=/dev/env/DJDIR/share/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.pem
>>>> ? Of course the value propossed is arbitrary and reflects the way I
>>>> have done
>>>> ? it for my own installation of lynx.? A starting point for reading about
>>>> how
>>>> ? to create your own PEM files is:
>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/2002-12/msg00043.html
>>>> ? It describes how to create one using the trusted certificates provide by
>>>> the
>>>> ? microsoft IE.
>>>>
>>>> ? I have tested this port by trying to access all sites that are listed in:
>>>> https://royal.pingdom.com/using-web-browser-lynx-visit-top-websites/
>>>> ? and I have experienced no issues.? I have also accessed some german and
>>>> ? spanish sites to check if the special native characters are correctly
>>>> ? displayed and I have found no issues.? I have also accessed
>>>> www.delorie.com
>>>> ? to check if the ftp support works well and if the cvs repository can be
>>>> ? accessed via cvsweb interface and everthing works flawlessly. Of course,
>>>> ? the mail archives can also be accessed without issues.
>>>>
>>>> ? Please note that I am not a lynx user.? I have ported it as a real world
>>>> ? test for the OpenSSL and WATT-32 ports.
>>>>
>>>> ? Only to make this point clear, if you want to use lynx as a stand alone
>>>> ? program without having to care about environment variables, copy
>>>> lynx.exe,
>>>> ? lynx.cfg and lynx.lss into the same directory and it will work. When
>>>> copying
>>>> ? the .PEM file it must be renamed to "cert.pem".? This is mandatory or it
>>>> will
>>>> ? not be found!
>>>>
>>>> ? As usual, all djgpp specific files (diffs, README files, etc.) are stored
>>>> ? in the /djgpp directory.? The sources have been configured to be build in
>>>> ? the "_build" directory.? If for some reason it does not work for you,
>>>> ? delete it contents and configure from scratch again.
>>>>
>>>> ? Please read the docs very __CAREFULLY__ to become familiar with the
>>>> product.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ? Here is an extract of the CHANGES file showing the user visible changes
>>>> from
>>>> ? the last port (Lynx 2.9.0dev.1) to this one:
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> 2019-08-26 (2.9.0dev.4)
>>>> * revert change to port-handling in 2.9.0dev.3 changes for gophermap
>>>> (report
>>>> by
>>>> ? Martijn Dekker).
>>>> * add ro.po, update de.po, et.po, tr.po, vi.po from
>>>> http://translationproject.org/latest/lynx
>>>>
>>>> 2019-08-25 (2.9.0dev.3)
>>>> * modify gophermap menu-parsing to handle "h" HTML selectors similarly to
>>>> the
>>>> ? command-line parsing, which avoids hex-encoding the parameter delimiters
>>>> ? "?", "=", ";" as well as "#" (report by Tobias Girstmair) -TD
>>>> * make redirection-limit configurable, defaulting to 10 -TD
>>>> * remove alert when relative base href is seen, since HTML5 allows for this
>>>> ? (report by Sylvain Bertrand) -TD
>>>> * modify lynx.iss to use statically-linked bzip2 and gzip programs, and to
>>>> ? eliminate a spurious warning when attempting to remove an optional DLL
>>>> -TD
>>>> * fix a few coverity warnings -TD
>>>> * revise HTSimplify to eliminate a redundant "." segment at the beginning
>>>> of a
>>>> ? path, referring to RFC 3986 5.2.4 (report by Alejandro Lieber) -TD
>>>>
>>>> 2019-07-31 (2.9.0dev.2)
>>>> * improved several configure macros, including workaround for non-POSIX
>>>> ? issue with BSDs.
>>>> * fix typo in iso15_uni.tbl (Robert Bell)
>>>> * update de.po from
>>>> http://translationproject.org/latest/lynx
>>>> * update config.guess (2019-06-10), config.sub (2019-06-30)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ? The port consists of the usual three packages that have been produced
>>>> using
>>>> ? djdev205 (CVS repository code) and can be downloaded from ftp.delorie.com
>>>> ? and mirrors as (time stamp 2019-08-31):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ??? Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 binaries, scripts and man format documentation:
>>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/lx290d4b.zip
>>>>
>>>> ??? Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 html format documentation and sample files:
>>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/lx290d4d.zip
>>>>
>>>> ??? Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 source:
>>>> ftp://ftp.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/lx290d4s.zip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ? Send Lynx utils specific bug reports to <[email protected]>.
>>>> ? Send suggestions and bug reports concerning the DJGPP port to
>>>> ? comp.os.msdos.djgpp or <[email protected]>.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy.
>>>>
>>>> ??? Guerrero, Juan Manuel <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/9/19 00:18, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>>> Thomas, Ian,
>>>>> Thomas I? personally can do nothing whatsoever with the snapshop. because
>>>>> of? how I use a computer,? and the lack of pure dos compiles of Lynx
>>>>> recently, my only access to the browser, or to the internet in general
>>>>> comes? via? using ssh telnet to reach shellworld.
>>>>> Ian, if you choose to access this snapshot, can you test for improvements?
>>>>> I will likely have to wait first for its incorporation into a lynx
>>>>> edition,
>>>>> then? to how? these changes might be incorporated into shellworld before I
>>>>> try.
>>>>> Regardless I am reporting to Amazon, so a test of some kind will be
>>>>> helpful.
>>>>> Kare
>>>>>
>>>>
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