Re: reusable controllers and session objects

I see, you meant to say "I am trying to STOP applying my stuff to a 
frameless application" instead of "I am trying to apply my stuff to a 
frameless application."  So, you have to see that it was not a matter of 
ignorance, or knowledge, but basic communication.  There is no need to get 
snarky.  I was answering to try to be helpful.  Perhaps I should just 
ignore you.  You might in fact prefer that, and prefer to have help that 
soothes rather than helps.  That is okay with me.  Whatever!

At 01:00 PM 3/29/03 -0800, you wrote:
> >Valeri these are just standard coding things.  You >essentially are 
> asking how to code your project.
>
>I asked: is it possible?
>
> >Maverick is a framework, so you can hardly apply
> >it to a "framework-less" web application.
>
>You mean it doesn't make any sense to convert spagetti
>applicatios to a well-designed ones?
>
>Yes, you are right: why bother?
>Thank you for poining out at my total ignorance.
>
>Valeri
>
>---
>
>
>
>On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:35:09
>  Michael McGrady wrote:
> >Valeri these are just standard coding things.  You essentially are asking
> >how to code your project.  Maverick is a framework, so you can hardly apply
> >it to a "framework-less" web application.  My apologies if I am not
> >understanding you.  This is meant to be helpful.
> >
> >On your coding questions, I have no idea what your application does, so I
> >could not nor could anyone else give an intelligent reponse to the
> >questions.  If you don't need a lot of the infomation in the ClientModel, I
> >would definitely use lazy initialization of the Client, or a similar
> >technique.
> >
> >At 12:14 PM 3/29/03 -0800, you wrote:
> >>Dear Maverick experts,
> >>
> >>I am trying to apply Maverick to a "framework-less" web
> >>application, and my question is a very basic one.
> >>
> >>I am trying to avoid creating new objects at every request.
> >>Is it possible to use a servlet as a (Trhowaway2)
> >>Controller? Or other reusable accross requests conroller.
> >>
> >>Situation: I have a servlet that checks if there is a
> >>Client object in the user's session. If yes, the Client
> >>object is reused, otherwise a new Client instance is
> >>created. The Client object looks like this:
> >>
> >>public class Client{
> >>
> >>    private ClientModel model;
> >>    private ClientModelHandler modelHandler;
> >>
> >>    private CardViewHandler cardViewHandler;
> >>    private FormViewHandler formViewHandler;
> >>    private FormPrintHandler formPrintHandler;
> >>
> >>    // methods go here...
> >>}
> >>
> >>ClientModel has 38 fields and its creation and rendering
> >>are costly operations. Plus we have at least 70 concurrent
> >>users (accessing the same view at the same time) at low
> >>periods and 350+ at high, so creating new objects for each
> >>request and passing old ones to gc doesn't look good from
> >>performace point of view.
> >>
> >>In "old" application, I use an object pool to get instances
> >>of Client objects for new users; and re-use Client objects
> >>found in user's session for logged-in users.
> >>
> >>Can you advise me on how to replicate an object pool with
> >>Maverick and how to reuse the same object found in session?
> >>
> >>Thank you very much!
> >>
> >>Valeri
> >>
> >>
> >>
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