Re: MRFC: Midgard site startup and configuration.

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Hi,

- --Piotras wrote on 2006-02-07 11:36:
>>> I am not any component developer but: Two sites I initilized without M-T
>>> are not working anymore and frankly speaking I have no time or will to
>>> debug what happened. However M-T is slow I vote for M-T. Reason is very
>>> simple. I know that M-T based sites are going to work as expected.
>> 
>> You think so, ok. I have nearly a dozen of examples where current M-T broke
>> more things, than it fixed. It is purely a matter of perspective.
>> 
>> We need a site management system, but not something like current M-T.
> 
> OK, I will correct myself ( probably I am the only one midcom *user* on this
> dev list ). As a user I need something like M-T. It doesn't matter for me
> what's under the hood.

That is for sure. See my first mail, it outlines the way it should work in my
eyes. It'll give people like you a full GUI to manage the site and people like
me (using the custom sections) ways to actually influence and fine-tune startup.


>>> $some_midcom_site->port $some_midcom_site->prefix 
>>> $some_midcom_site->whatever
>>> 
>>> Is *much* more readable than another set of huge set of arrays.
>> 
>> Leading to a table which needs to be extended with each and every
>> configuration option I add to MidCOM. Right now, we already have literally
>> dozens of such options (around 50 I guess) part of which are system-wide,
>> part of it site-specific. Some options are even complex types, not simple
>> ports or prefixes.
> 
> I do not think you would like to have 500 configuration options. It doesn't
> have to be db related. I was only pointing to arrays' hell ( probably I am
> the only one midcom *user* on this dev list ).

The array isn't trivial, I agree here. But normally you don't have to work with
that array in any way. Right now, if you cannot use m-t for whatever reason,
site startup is rather trivial, the only thing really needs specification in a
standard environment is the root topic GUID. I grant that the array isn't
exactly user-friendly, but I fully trust that you can populate a global array
with a single guid until we have a more powerful system. Most other
configuration options which are relevant are in the system wide config file in
/etc anyway (which can be auto-generated using autoconf.php as I outlined
somewhere in my blog).


I have never said setting up MidCOM is trivial (as Midgard setup is anything
from trivial still). But we're getting better.


Live long and Prosper!
Torben Nehmer

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Torben Nehmer, Guenzburg, Bavaria, Germany
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