RE: Version 5 w/ Frames

"Brett Zamora" <[email protected]> Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:31:16 -0700
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Hi Nick,

I'm not sure what that value is used for. It's in the position whose
function is labeled "scrollable menu". I've never used that position myself.
Like I said before though, I've asked Andy about the alignment issue you've
described because I've had the same issue. Given the variable flag name he
is using on his new menu (overflow), I'm reasonably certain he has a flag in
the version 3 menu that goes off when the menu will extend below the bottom
of the screen and at that point his processing is to adjust the alignment
upward in an attempt to display the entire submenu on the screen. I don't
believe you can override it.

The good news is that with the new V5 menu, the alignment stays consistent.
If you want your submenu to align directly with the previous menu item
selection, as I do, then the overflow flag still gets set when the submenu
will extend below the bottom of the screen, however, with the new menu, you
can cause a scroll bar to appear and it works very nicely. Very clean.

You really should consider moving over to using CSS and DIV's instead of
using frames. They just aren't worth the hassle. (And I'm a frames fan!)

Regards,

Brett
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Vejseli, Nick [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:19 AM
  To: Milonic DHTML Menu; [email protected]
  Subject: RE: [Milonic] Version 5 w/ Frames


  addmenu(menu=["BSC_Sales_Tools",,,240,1,"",plain_style,,,,,,,,,,,,,-500,,



  What is the -500 number for?  What does that do.  I put a number there and
it makes the submenus line up the first time you go to it but then the next
time it goes all the way back up to the top.  I'm attaching my code and
maybe you can see whats wrong.  Please let me know asap.  I'm using version
3





  Nick Vejseli
  PC/Network Technician
  Ball Horticultural Company
  622 Town Road
  West Chicago, IL 60185
  (630) 588-3227

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Vejseli, Nick
  Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:41 PM
  To: [email protected]; Milonic DHTML Menu
  Subject: RE: [Milonic] Version 5 w/ Frames



    Do you know when they are going to have frames supported with 5?



  Nick Vejseli
  PC/Network Technician
  Ball Horticultural Company
  622 Town Road
  West Chicago, IL 60185
  (630) 588-3227

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Brett Zamora [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:39 PM
  To: Milonic DHTML Menu
  Subject: RE: [Milonic] Version 5 w/ Frames



    Nick...



  The V5 menu does not support frames yet. I have the same predicament but
I'm opting to move my application to a non-frames implementation so that I
can use the scroll bar for the long menu items.



  Regards,



  Brett





    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Vejseli, Nick
    Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:24 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: [Milonic] Version 5 w/ Frames

    Are you going to have a Frames sample for version 5?  I would really

    like to have that one.  I  have 3 right now and I'm having problems

    when I have a lot of submenu items.  They get cut off at the top of

    the frame after like 10 items.  You added the scroll bar function in 5

    which helps that problem so please let me know ASAP. Thanks



    Nick Vejseli
    PC/Network Technician
    Ball Horticultural Company
    622 Town Road
    West Chicago, IL 60185
    (630) 588-3227



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Nick,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D987372418-05082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D987372418-05082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I'm=20
not sure what that value is used for. It's in the position&nbsp;whose =
function=20
is labeled "scrollable menu". I've never used that position myself. Like =
I said=20
before though, I've asked Andy about the alignment issue you've =
described=20
because I've had the same issue. Given the variable flag name he is =
using on his=20
new menu (overflow), I'm reasonably certain he has a flag in the version =
3 menu=20
that goes off when the menu will extend below the bottom of the screen =
and at=20
that point his processing is to adjust the alignment upward in an =
attempt to=20
display the entire submenu on the screen. I don't believe you can =
override=20
it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D987372418-05082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D987372418-05082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>The=20
good news is that with the new V5 menu, the alignment stays consistent. =
If you=20
want your submenu to align directly with the previous menu item =
selection, as I=20
do, then the overflow flag still gets set when the submenu will extend =
below the=20
bottom of the screen, however, with the new menu, you can cause a scroll =
bar to=20
appear and it works very nicely. Very clean.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D987372418-05082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D987372418-05082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>You=20
really should consider moving over to using CSS and DIV's instead of =
using=20
frames. They just aren't worth the hassle. (And I'm a frames=20
fan!)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D987372418-05082003></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D987372418-05082003><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D987372418-05082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D987372418-05082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D987372418-05082003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Brett</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Vejseli, Nick=20
  [mailto:[email protected]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 05, =
2003 11:19=20
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> Milonic DHTML Menu; =
[email protected]<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
  [Milonic] Version 5 w/ Frames<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">addmenu(menu=3D["BSC_Sales_Tools",,,240,1,"",plain_style,,,,,,,,,,=
,,,-500,,</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What is the =
-500=20
  number for?&nbsp; What does that do.&nbsp; I put a number there and it =
makes=20
  the submenus line up the first time you go to it but then the next =
time it=20
  goes all the way back up to the top.&nbsp; I&#8217;m attaching my code =
and maybe you=20
  can see whats wrong.&nbsp; Please let me know asap.&nbsp; I&#8217;m =
using version=20
  3</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoAutoSig><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy">Nick Vejseli<BR>PC/Network=20
  Technician<BR>Ball Horticultural Company<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dnavy=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy">622 Town=20
  Road</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dnavy=20
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  Chicago</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: navy">, </SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dnavy=20
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  </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
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  588-3227</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
Vejseli,=20
  Nick <BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, =
August=20
  04, 2003 1:41 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
  [email protected]; Milonic DHTML Menu<BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Milonic] Version =
5 w/=20
  Frames</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Do you know =
when they=20
  are going to have frames supported with 5?</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dnavy=20
  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoAutoSig style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: =
navy">Nick=20
  Vejseli<BR>PC/Network Technician<BR>Ball Horticultural Company<BR>622 =
Town=20
  Road<BR>West Chicago, IL 60185<BR>(630) 588-3227</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
Brett=20
  Zamora [mailto:[email protected]] <BR><B><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, August 04, 2003 =
1:39=20
  PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Milonic =
DHTML=20
  Menu<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: =
[Milonic]=20
  Version 5 w/ Frames</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
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  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
  face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Nick...</SPAN></FONT></P>
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12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblue=20
  size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">The V5=20
  menu does not support frames yet. I have the same predicament but I'm =
opting=20
  to move my application to a non-frames implementation so that I can =
use the=20
  scroll bar for the long menu items.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblue=20
  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Regards,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblue=20
  size=3D2><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Brett</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
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12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in">
    <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
    style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0in"><FONT=20
    face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
    Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
    [email protected]=20
    [mailto:[email protected]]<B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Vejseli, =
Nick<BR><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, August 04, 2003 =
11:24=20
    AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
    [email protected]<BR><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Milonic] Version 5 =
w/=20
    Frames</SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">Are you=20
    going to have a Frames sample for version 5?&nbsp; I would really=20
    </SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">like to=20
    have that one.&nbsp; I&nbsp; have 3 right now and I'm having =
problems=20
    </SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">when I have=20
    a lot of submenu items.&nbsp; They get cut off at the top of=20
    </SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">the frame=20
    after like 10 items.&nbsp; You added the scroll bar function in 5=20
    </SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT =
face=3D"Courier New"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">which helps=20
    that problem so please let me know ASAP. Thanks</SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
    size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
    <P class=3DMsoAutoSig style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
    size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Nick Vejseli<BR>PC/Network=20
    Technician<BR>Ball Horticultural Company<BR>622 Town Road<BR>West =
Chicago,=20
    IL 60185<BR>(630) 588-3227</SPAN></FONT> &nbsp;</P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
    size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
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