Re: Сохpанение.

Hi Vladimir,
    discussing the topic "п║п╬я┘pп╟п╫п╣п╫п╦п╣.",
    on Tuesday, 29.06.2004, at 00:50 (GMT+0400), i.e. at 2:50 my local time,
    you wrote in operatalk at least in part:
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V> п°п╬п╤п╫п╬ п╠я▀п╩п╬ п╠я▀ п╦ п©п╬я┐п╡п╟п╤п╦я┌п╣п╩я▄п╫п╣п╧ п╬я┌п╫п╬я│п╦я┌я│я▐, п╦п╫п╟я┤п╣, п╥п╟я┤п╣п╪ я└п╬я─я┐п╪я▀?

п░ п╨п╬п╫п╣я┤п╫п╬ п╤п╣, я┤я┌п╬п╠я▀ п╬я┌п╫п╬я│п╦я┌я▄я│я▐ п╢я─я┐пЁ п╨ п╢я─я┐пЁя┐ п╦ п╢п╣п╩п╦я┌я▄я│я▐ "п╬я┌п╫п╬я┬п╣п╫п╦я▐п╪п╦",
п╫п╦п╨я┌п╬ п╦п╫п╟я┤п╣ п╦ п╫п╣ п╢я┐п╪п╟п╩. п▓п╬я┌ п╠я▀ п╫п╟ я└п╬я─я┐п╪п╟я┘ п╦ я─п╟я│я│п╨п╟п╥я▀п╡п╟п╩ п©я─п╬ п╡я│п╣ я│п╡п╬п╦
"п╫п╟п╢п╬п╣п╩п╬", "я─п╟п╥п╢я─п╟п╤п╟п╣я┌" п╦ п©я─п╬я┤п╦п╣ п╩п╦я┤п╫я▀п╣ п╬я┌п╫п╬я┬п╣п╫п╦я▐ п╦ п╬я┴я┐я┴п╣п╫п╦я▐.
п≈п╢п╣я│я▄-я┌п╬ п╥п╟я┤п╣п╪?

V> п·п©п╣я─п╟ я┐п╤п╣ п╡я┌п╬я─п╬п╧ я─п╟п╥ п╡я▀п©я┐я│п╨п╟п╣я┌ п╬я└п╦я├п╦п╟п╩я▄п╫я┐я▌ я─я┐я│я│п╨п╬я▐п╥я▀я┤п╫я┐я▌ п╡п╣я─я│п╦я▌. п≈п╫п╟я┤п╦я┌
V> п╣я│я┌я▄ п╥п╟п╦п╫я┌п╣я─п╣я│п╬п╡п╟п╫п╫п╬я│я┌я▄...

п²п╣п╩я▄п╥я▐ п╬я┌п╨я─я▀я┌я▀п╪ я┌п╣п╨я│я┌п╬п╪ я│п╨п╟п╥п╟я┌я▄ - я│ п╡п╟я┬п╣пЁп╬ я─п╣пЁп╦п╬п╫п╟ п©п╬я┤я┌п╦ п╫п╣ п╨п╟п©п╩п╣я┌,
п╪я▀ п╫п╟ п╡п╟я│ п╥п╟п╠п╦п╩п╦. п╒п╣п╪ п╠п╬п╩п╣п╣ п╣я│п╩п╦ п╢п╩я▐ "я─я┐я│я│п╨п╬пЁп╬" п╢п╬я│я┌п╟я┌п╬я┤п╫п╬ п╩п╦я┬я▄
п╬п╠п╫п╬п╡п╩п╣п╫п╦я▐ п╦п╫я┌п╣я─я└п╣п╧я│п╟ п©п╣я─п╣п╡п╣я│я┌п╦.

п░ п╡п╬я┌ п╥п╟я│я┌п╟я─п╣п╩я▀п╧ пЁп╩я▌п╨ п╡ autodetect-ru п╫п╟пЁп╩я▐п╢п╫п╬ п©п╬п╨п╟п╥я▀п╡п╟п╣я┌ я│я┌п╣п©п╣п╫я▄
п╥п╟п╦п╫я┌п╣я─п╣я│п╬п╡п╟п╫п╫п╬я│я┌п╦. п╜я┌п╬ я┐п╤п╣ п╫п╣ п©п╣я─п╣п╡п╬п╢ я│я┌п╬я─п╬п╫п╫п╦п╪ п╡п╬п╩п╬п╫я┌п╣я─п╬п╪, п╟ п╢п╩я▐
я│п╡п╬п╣пЁп╬ п©я─п╬пЁя─п╟п╪п╪п╦я│я┌п╟ п╥п╟п╢п╟я┤п╟, п╟ я┐ п╫п╣пЁп╬ п╦я┌п╟п╨ я─п╟п╠п╬я┌я▀ я┘п╡п╟я┌п╟п╣я┌.

п÷я─п╬ я│п╬я┘я─п╟п╫п╣п╫п╦п╣ "п╨п╟п╨ п╡ IE" пЁп╬п╢п╟п╪п╦ пЁп╬п╡п╬я─я▐я┌ - п╫п╬ я─п╟п╥ п╢п╬ я│п╦я┘ п©п╬я─ п╫п╣
я│п╢п╣п╩п╟п╫п╬, п╡п╦п╢п╦п╪п╬, п╫п╣ я┌п╣ пЁп╬п╡п╬я─я▐я┌, п╟ я┌п╣, п╨я┌п╬ пЁп╬п╡п╬я─я▐я┌, п╪п╟п╩п╬ п╡п╣я│я▐я┌.

V> п²п╣ п╠я▀п╩п╬ п©п╬п╢п╬п╠п╫я▀я┘ я└я─п╟п╥, п©п╬я│п╨п╬п╩я▄п╨я┐ я▒п╤я┐ п©п╬п╫я▐я┌п╫п╬, я┤я┌п╬ п╨п╬п╫я└п╟ п╫п╣п╬я└п╦я├п╦п╟п╩я▄п╫п╟я▐, я│п╬
V> п╡я│п╣п╪п╦ п©п╬п╤п╣п╩п╟п╫п╦я▐п╪п╦ п╫п╟п╢п╬ п╦п╢я┌п╦ п╡ opera.wishlist.

п≤ пЁп╢п╣ я┌я▀ я┌п╟п╨ п╫п╟п╢п╬п╣п╩ я│п╬ я│п╡п╬п╦п╪п╦ п©п╬п╤п╣п╩п╟п╫п╦я▐п╪п╦, я┤я┌п╬ я┌п╣п╠п╣ п╡ п╬я┌п╡п╣я┌ п©я─п╦я│п╨п╟п╥п╨п╟
п©я─п╬ п╨п╬я└п╣ п╫п╟п╢п╬п╣п╩п╟? п²п╣я┐п╤я┌п╬ п╡ opera.wishlist я┌п╟п╨ п╬я┌п╡п╣я┤п╟п╩п╦?

>> V> п╞ п╥п╢п╣я│я▄ п╬п╨п╬п╩п╬ п╪п╣я│я▐я├п╟,

>> п║я┌п╟я─п╬п╤п╦п╩, п╢п╟... п■п╟ п╦ п╡п╬п╬п╠я┴п╣ п╥я─п╣п╩я▀п╧ я┤п╣п╩п╬п╡п╣п╨, п╟пЁп╟...
V> п╜я┌п╬ п╠я▀п╩п╬ я│п╨п╟п╥п╟п╫п╬ п╫п╣ п©п╬ п©п╬п╡п╬п╢я┐ п╪п╬п╣пЁп╬ п╤п╦п╥п╫п╣п╫п╫п╬пЁп╬ п╬п©я▀я┌п╟, п╟ п╡ я┌п╬п╪ я│п╪я▀я│п╩п╣, я┤я┌п╬
V> п╥п╟ п╪п╣я│я▐я├ п▓я▀ п╪п╣п╫я▐ я│я┌п╟п╩п╦ я─п╟п╥п╢я─п╟п╤п╟я┌я▄.

п║п╩я▌я┬, я┌п╬ я┌п╣п╠п╣ п╫п╟п╢п╬п╣п╩п╬, я█я┌п╬ я┌п╣п╠я▐ я─п╟п╥п╢я─п╟п╤п╟п╣я┌ - п╢п╟ п╨п╬п╪я┐ п╢п╬ я█я┌п╬пЁп╬ п╢п╣п╩п╬?
п²п╟ п╨п╬п╧ п╡п╣я┴п╟я┌я▄ п╫п╟ п╡я│я▌ п╨п╬п╫я└я┐ "я┤п╣пЁп╬ я▐ п╫п╣ п╩я▌п╠п╩я▌", п╨п╟п╨ п╨п╟п╨п╟я▐ п©п╬п©-п╥п╡п╣п╥п╢п╟
п╡ п╦п╫я┌п╣я─п╡я▄я▌ п╢п╟п╪я│п╨п╬п╪я┐ п╤я┐я─п╫п╟п╩я┐.

п÷п╬п╥п╟п╠п╬я┌я▄я│я▐ п╬ я│п╡п╬п╣п╪ п╢я┐я┬п╣п╡п╫п╬п╪ я─п╟п╡п╫п╬п╡п╣я│п╦п╦ я│п╟п╪, п╫п╦п╨я┌п╬ п╥п╟ я┌п╣п╠я▐ я█я┌п╬пЁп╬ п╫п╣
я│п╢п╣п╩п╟п╣я┌. п²п╟п©я─п╦п╪п╣я─, п╫п╟ п╪п╬п╧ From п©п╬я│я┌п╟п╡я▄ я┌п╡п╦я┌, п╫п╟ я│п╩п╬п╡п╬ "п╨п╬я└п╣" п╡ я┌п╣п╨я│я┌п╣
я┌п╬п╤п╣ я└п╦п╩я▄я┌я─ п╫п╟я│я┌я─п╬п╧ п╦ я─п╟я│я│п╩п╟п╠я▄я│я▐.

V> п²п╟ я┐п╪ п©я─п╦я┘п╬п╢п╦я┌ п▓п╟я┬п╦ п╫п╣ я│п╬п╡я│п╣п╪ п╢я─я┐п╤п╣я│я┌п╡п╣п╫п╫я▀п╣ п╨п╬п╪п╪п╣п╫я┌п╟я─п╦п╦

п░п╠я│п╬п╩я▌я┌п╫п╬ п╫п╣п╢я─я┐п╤п╣я│я┌п╡п╣п╫п╫я▀п╣...

V> п©п╬ п©п╬п╡п╬п╢я┐ п╬я┌п╬п╠я─п╟п╤п╣п╫п╦я▐ я└я─п╣п╧п╪п╬п╡, п╨п╬пЁп╢п╟ п╡я▀ п╫п╣ п©я─п╦п╡п╣п╩п╦ п╬я┬п╦п╠п╨я┐ п╦ я│я┌п╟п╩п╦
V> п╡я▀я▐я│п╫я▐я┌я▄ я┐я─п╬п╡п╣п╫я▄ п╬п╠я─п╟п╥п╬п╡п╟п╫п╦я▐ Mikhail Grigoryev.

п⌠я▀... п²п╦п╨п╬пЁп╬, п╨я─п╬п╪п╣ я┌п╣п╠я▐, п╨п╟п╨ п╫п╬п╡п╦я┤п╨п╟ п╡ я█я┘п╣, я█я┌п╬ п╫п╣ я┐п╢п╦п╡п╦п╩п╬ ;-)
п╒п╟п╨п╤п╣, п╡п©я─п╬я┤п╣п╪, п╨п╟п╨ п╦ я┌п╬, я┤я┌п╬ п╬п╫ п╫п╟ п╨п╟п╤п╢я▀п╧ п╪п╬п╧ п©п╬я│я┌ я┌п╬пЁп╢п╟ п©п╣я─п╡я▀п╪
п╢п╣п╩п╬п╪ я│я─п╬я┤п╫п╬ п╡п╬п╥я─п╟п╤п╟п╩, п╩п╦я┬я▄ п©п╬я┌п╬п╪ п╡п╫п╦п╨п╟п╩ п╡ я│я┐я┌я▄ п©я─п╬п╠п╩п╣п╪я▀... п▓п╬я┌
я│п╣п╧я┤п╟я│ п╪п╬п╩я┤п╦я┌ - я┌п╬ п╩п╦ п╫п╣п╨п╬пЁп╢п╟, я┌п╬ п╩п╦ я│п╬п╩п╦п╢п╟я─п╣п╫, я┌п╟п╨ п╨п╟п╨ п©п╬п╢п╬п╠п╫я▀п╣
я┌п╣п╠п╣ п╨п╟п©я─п╦п╥п╫п╦п╨п╦ п╦ п╣пЁп╬ п╢п╬я│я┌п╟п╩п╦...

V> п°п╬пЁп╩п╦ п╠я▀ п╣п╪я┐ п╩п╦я┤п╫п╬ п╫п╟п©п╦я│п╟я┌я▄, п╟ п╫п╣ п╬п╠я│я┐п╤п╢п╟я┌я▄ п╣пЁп╬ п╩п╦я┤п╫я▀п╣ п╨п╟я┤п╣я│я┌п╡п╟
V> (п╨п╬я┌п╬я─я▀п╣ п╪п╫п╣ п©п╬ п╠п╟я─п╟п╠п╟п╫я┐) п╡ п╨п╬п╫я└п╣.

п÷п╬п╫п╦п╪п╟я▌ я┌п╣п╠я▐, п╢п╟. п░ п╪п╫п╣ п©п╬ п╠п╟я─п╟п╠п╟п╫я┐, я┤я┌п╬ я┌п╟п╪ я┌п╣п╠п╣ "п╫п╟п╢п╬п╣п╩п╬", п╟ я┤я┌п╬
"я─п╟п╥п╢я─п╟п╤п╟п╣я┌", я┘п╬я┌я▄ я┌я▀ п╦ я│я┌п╟я─п╟п╩я│я▐ п©п╬п©п╬п╢я─п╬п╠п╫п╣п╧ я─п╟я│я│п╨п╟п╥п╟я┌я▄. п║п©я─п╟п╡п╣п╢п╩п╦п╡п╬?

V> п≤ п╣я┴п╣, п╣я│п╩п╦ я▐ п▓п╟я│ п╬п╠п╦п╢п╣п╩, я┌п╬ п©я─п╬я┬я┐ п©я─п╬я┴п╣п╫п╦я▐...

п²п╦я┤я┐я┌я▄! п∙я│п╩п╦ п╠ я▐ п╠я▀п╩п╟ п╬п╠п╦п╢я┤п╦п╡п╟, я▐ п╠ п╪п╬п╩я┤п╟п╩п╟ - п╡п╬ п╦п╥п╠п╣п╤п╟п╫п╦п╣ п╬п╠п╦п╢ ;-)

-- 
Bye!
Lп╣nп╟



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