Re: Ang: Announcement: Opera-Users mailing list to be closed in late July, 2010

Thanks, Julian, but I already knew most of that. I am a registered user at  
Yahoo, a member of several groups there, I use Yahoo IM (but not their IM  
client) and I even have an email address there, although I never use that,  
even for the groups I belong to.

The point I was trying to make is that usually there are several steps to  
joining a group at Yahoo, and it's a pain in the neck. I've never had  
anyone send me an invitation to join a group, so I didn't know that was  
possible. To join a group I've always had to go to the site, sign in, find  
the group I wanted to join, and go through the signup procedure. Until  
Katrina pointed it out I didn't know it was possible to subscribe to a  
group by email - the same as with this mailing list. The fact that I  
didn't know that is another mark against Yahoo, since they apparently  
don't make that feature known (and in any case, even if I had known about  
that feature, I'd still need to know the name of the group I wanted to  
join - not possible if I was simply browsing the groups looking for  
something of interest to me). Even if I follow the link which James posted  
on this list to the new group he has set up I have to enter my password  
(and I get a spiel telling me why I need a Yahoo ID). As I said, Yahoo  
wants you to jump through hoops. It would be nice if they made it obvious  
that you don't need to be a Yahoo member to join groups there, and made it  
clear what the alternatives are. They don't seem to do that.

There are several reasons I don't like Yahoo, and between us Katrina and I  
have covered most of those in our posts to this group. Another one I just  
thought of is that, when I followed the link to James's group I was able  
to read all of the messages posted there even though I didn't join. Posts  
to this group are accessible only to group members. As I also said  
earlier, Yahoo groups and Mailman mailing lists such as this one are  
vastly different.

Sorry, but I can't get excited about anything at Yahoo.

John

On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:26:05 +1000, Julian <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello John:
>
>       I am subscribed to several YahooGroups; and, I am a moderator on  
> two of them.  I also have a YahooMail account, which means I am a  
> registered Yahoo! user.  This way I have a choice of how to go about  
> joining YahooGroups' lists.
>
>       The simplest way, if I am sent an invitation by the owner or a  
> moderator of a YahooGroup, is to reply to the e-mail notice by having  
> the word, "subscribe," indicated in the subject line.  This is the same  
> manner which has been available with all lists to which I have joined,  
> irrespective of what or which type of server/program is used.  The same  
> is true to unsubscribe from a list.
>
>       The alternate manner to join is to first become a member of Yahoo,  
> then to go to the YahooGroups area, and click on "pamiga."  At that  
> point to fill out the "Request to join" stuff.
>
>       Another commonality is that the e-mail address you wish the list  
> to consider as your official e-mail address is the one you indicate,  
> either in joining the list, or in contacting the owner/moderator, once  
> you have joined.  This means you never have to be a member of Yahoo, and  
> you never have to have an e-mail address at Yahoo.
>
>       There is not much else I can say positively nor negatively about  
> YahooGroups lists.  It has always appeared to behave like most other  
> such servers/programs.
>
>       Hope this actually helps.
>
>              Regards,
>
>              Julian.
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