Re: ING Direct - No love for Opera :(

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=0A_=0ALol Harry, thanks for the explanations (I didn't know any of it :) S=
ounds like you know your linguistics!=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFro=
m: "Harry Lake" <[email protected]>=0ASent: Monday, July 19, 2010 5:41pm=0A=
To: "Using Opera" <[email protected]>=0ASubject: Re: [OU] ING Direct - =
No love for Opera :(=0A=0AAt 20:57 19-7-2010 CEST, you wrote:=0A_=0APS, Jac=
k: if even Opera premium support could not help troubleshoot/fix this issue=
, I am kind of losing hope anyone will be able to :( I welcome your bank's =
name even more, then.=0A=0AOf course, ING have been at pains to make clear =
that the name should be pronounced Eye - Enn - Gee, or Ee - Enn - Ghay in D=
utch. (gh as in Van Gogh - oh, never mind! :-)=0A=0A(Actually, if you're in=
terested, it's like ch in Scottish 'loch' or gh as in Irish 'lough'. In Dut=
ch, the letter G is pronounced the same way as gh, so that Vincent van Gogh=
's name, and indeed that of anyone else with that surname, e.g. the murdere=
d film maker Theo van Gogh (I myself knew someone called van Gogh), is pron=
ounced (using 'ch' as in loch) as 'choch'. It's sort of half-way between h =
as in 'hot' and c as in 'cot'. My wife's name was Gemma and my parents lear=
nt (more or less) to pronounce it by simply adding an H to Emma and trying =
to make it sound a bit guttural (this was in the very early 1970s, long, lo=
ng before Gemma ('Jemma', sometimes spelt that way) had even been heard of =
in the UK - indeed, I like to think it was she who introduced the name ther=
e!). (In case anyone's wondering - I doubt it - the name Gemma (in Holland,=
 anyway) comes from the RC Saint Gemma Galgani.)=0A=0ASorry about all that.=
 It won't happen again (till the next time).=0A=0AHarry=0A
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<font face=3D"arial" size=3D"2"><DIV>_<BR>Lol Harry, thanks for the explana=
tions (I didn't know any of it :) Sounds like you know your linguistics!<BR=
><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: "Harry Lake" &lt;[email protected]=
&gt;<BR>Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 5:41pm<BR>To: "Using Opera" &lt;opera-u=
[email protected]&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [OU] ING Direct - No love for Opera :(<B=
R><BR><FONT size=3D3>At 20:57 19-7-2010 CEST, you wrote:<BR></FONT>=0A<BLOC=
KQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT size=3D2 face=3Darial>_<B=
R>PS, Jack: if even Opera premium support could not help troubleshoot/fix t=
his issue, I am kind of losing hope anyone will be able to :( I welcome you=
r bank's name even more, then.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></FONT>Of course, ING ha=
ve been at pains to make clear that the name should be pronounced Eye - Enn=
 - Gee, or Ee - Enn - Ghay in Dutch. (gh as in Van Gogh - oh, never mind! :=
-)<BR><BR>(Actually, if you're interested, it's like ch in Scottish 'loch' =
or gh as in Irish 'lough'. In Dutch, the letter G is pronounced the same wa=
y as gh, so that Vincent van Gogh's name, and indeed that of anyone else wi=
th that surname, e.g. the murdered film maker Theo van Gogh (I myself knew =
someone called van Gogh), is pronounced (using 'ch' as in loch) as 'choch'.=
 It's sort of half-way between h as in 'hot' and c as in 'cot'. My wife's n=
ame was Gemma and my parents learnt (more or less) to pronounce it by simpl=
y adding an H to Emma and trying to make it sound a bit guttural (this was =
in the very early 1970s, long, long before Gemma ('Jemma', sometimes spelt =
that way) had even been heard of in the UK - indeed, I like to think it was=
 she who introduced the name there!). (In case anyone's wondering - I doubt=
 it - the name Gemma (in Holland, anyway) comes from the RC Saint Gemma Gal=
gani.)<BR><BR>Sorry about all that. It won't happen again (till the next ti=
me).<BR><BR>Harry<BR></DIV></font>
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