Re: Problems with opera-10.60 on Linux

[email protected] (Freddy Jensen) writes:

>    >From: "J. William Cupp" <[email protected]>
>    >Date: Sun Jul 11 2010  5:57pm
>    >To:   Freddy Jensen <[email protected]>, Using Opera for Linux <[email protected]>
>    >Subj: Re: [Opera-Linux] Problems with opera-10.60 on Linux
>    >
>    >On Sun, 2010-07-11 at 06:48 -0700, Freddy Jensen wrote:
>    >> Plug-ins don't work. I tried installing some plugins
>    >> in the local plugins directory, but opera refuses to
>    >> see them.
>    >> I have tried everything for the last few days and it appears
>    >> to me that this version of opera (on linux) is completely
>    >> unusable, for me at least.
>    >
>    >I, too, get the error message "opera plug in wrapper has crashed" quite
>    >often.  Since many web sites invoke multiple plug ins I'm not ever sure
>    >exactly what has crashed.  At least several times I can tell it is the
>    >Java and this is a serious problem.  Other times, though, I can tell
>    >Java is still executing even after the plug in wrapper crash.
>    >
>    >I find Opera 10.60 to be very disappointing and I hope an improved
>    >version will be available soon.
>    >
>    >	- Bill
>
> Bill,
>
> Thank you for your feedback.
>
> I have reverted back to version 10.10 which work just fine for me.
>
> I think there were too many changes included in 10.60 and bugs crept
> in. I don't understand why the entire installation procedure was changed.
> It worked fine the way it was before.

I think this was done primarily because the old installation procedure
was broken.  Yes, it worked most of the time, but only by sheer luck and
bloody-mindedness.  The old code was clunky, complex and exceedingly
hard to understand and maintain.  (And it probably has grown worse since
the last time I touched it, which is several years ago by now)

And yes, there are "too many changes".  Completely new ecmascript
engine, removal of the java loader, complete rewrite of platform UI
code.  But I suspect that there were no real alternatives.  It had to be
done.

> I, too, am hoping for something better than 10.60, which for me is
> not really usable at all.

Sometimes things get worse before they get better.  Hopefully things
will get better now that we have a proper release to work from, with the
major revolutions in place.  Please report the most serious issues you
have, so we know what needs to be fixed.

eirik
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