Re: Nested db-objects

Maât <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.web.phpgroupware.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Sigurd Nes a écrit :
>> From: Dave Hall [[email protected]]
>>     
>> Except in the case of connecting to external systems, there should be no
>> need to clone the db object.  If there is then your design is probably
>> broken.
>>     
>
> Well - I respectfully disagree :)
>
> Regards
>
> Sigurd
>   
I too respectfully disagree :)

Once again we need more to have something useable produced even if it's 
a beta or a release candidate than fighting on design beauty

Rather than lock project evolution for religious reasons i think we need 
to separate the tasks

deciding wether app developpers should be allowed or not to use db 
objects clones is totally non critical... if they decide to design with 
several accesses they will do whatever you decided before them... you 
can write down quality rules or phpgroupware best practices to help app 
developers create elegant code that will have a better effect on design 
beauty and global performance and phpgw image than locking things and 
managing developers grunting.

Please when it comes to framework design please make sure the framework 
allows developers to do everything they want (even things that you 
didn't imagine when you designed the framework) even if they do things 
in ways that you consider ugly

But this decision is not critical for phpgroupware evolution : there are 
few lines to change to go back and forth on this question. It can be 
changed later once we have a global agreement on this point.

There are other things much more critical... things are broken in 
phpgroupware atm and it would be better to spend time fixing them...

my 2 cents
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