RE: Re: Sharing

Gil, W0MN http://webpages.charter.net/gbaron
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Panico [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 6:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [pixory-beta] Re: Sharing
>
>
> Gil,
>
> You're right-- I didn't get the invite.
>
> But at this point, it's clear that the problem is not really in
> Pixory. Your ISP is doing something weird. There is some reason why
> your ISP is deciding to silently eat mail sent from Pixory.
>
> I spoke with my email guru. He said that a very small number of ISPs
> use a strange technology called something like "pop-before-smtp


Not true with Charter. I have often sent ONLY SMTP with no POP access.
I have also tried to send it through another service (myrealbox.com) which
DOES require authentication. that does not work either.

> authentication". This mechanism could result in the server silently
> eating sent messages. Here is one (you should be able to find many
> more) random reference that describes the phenomenon.
>
> http://www.azc.com/htmls/faqs/pop_before_smtp.html
>
> Basically, smtp started out as an open relay mechanism. So, before
> *real* smtp authentication was standardized, somebody had the bright
> idea to couple smtp relay (send) to require previous pop
> authentication, because pop always requires authentication. Apparently
> some of the major mail clients (like Outlook) support this mechanism,
> but it's not something that I have the time or inclination to build
> into Pixory.
>
> You should check with customer support for your ISP (they probably
> have a website and faq that you could start with). If you can't find
> the information your looking for, give them a call and explain the
> problem.

>
> A couple of possible workarounds:
>
> 1) It is possible that your server does support real smtp
> authentication, but you just don't know it. Try turning on the
> authentication in Pixory, supply a username and password, and see if
> you can get it to work.
>

I do not have to do that. I can send out SMTP only with no problem, do it
all of the time.
If I try what you say it is refused and nothing happens other than an error
message from the server.



> 2) You can send out invites manually (you won't get nice html invites
> with cover photo though). Open the Album Index for the album you want
> to generate invite for. Copy the URL for that page-- it is a static
> URL that will not change. Mail that URL to your audience. You do not
> need to make the album public for this to work. Only the people who
> receive the URL will be able to access the album.
>

I was going to ask about this. I can try that. I hope you get the id/pw
access working soon. that is the real solution to this. I don't like to give
the one and only password (url) out as if I want to reject a person later
on, I cannot.

> Sorry I couldn't be more help, but this problem is beyond my ingenuity
> to solve.
>
> In the not-too-distant future, pixory will support a new sharing
> mechanism that will allow password protecting albums, so that only
> people who have been granted access to an album will be able to view.
> This could also solve your problem.
>
> Let me know if you make any new discoveries.
>
> regards,
>
> joe
>
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