Re: pycon talk?

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Ted Leung wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the quick feedback.  Just one piece of clarification.  You 
> don't have to bust your tail to get all the documentation all lined up. 
> We'll have to supply a paper for the conference in March, so we have 
> some breathing room.  We just need an outline of the presentation. 
> More comments below

Oh, right.  Duh!

Though, I'm trying to get the documentation to a critical mass of "I'm a 
new user--what do I need to know to get up and running *happily*" 
centralized into one place before doing the PyBlosxom 1.1 release.

So it's all good.


> On Dec 29, 2004, at 11:46 AM, will guaraldi wrote:
>>>  * plugins
>>>     * comments
>>>     * categories
>>>     * archives
>>>     * searching
>>>     * metaweblog
>>>     * caching
>>>     * conditional http
>> 
>> This part I'm a little hesitant about.  Are you planning on talking about 
>> how these plugins fit in with PyBlosxom's architecture?  Are you planning 
>> to talk about how to install these plugins?  If the latter, then which 
>> plugins are you talking about specifically because, for example, there are 
>> several searching and archives plugins in the plugin registry.
>> 
>> I dunno...  I think if it were me, I'd do a quick blurb on plugins in 
>> general: where to get them, how they're generally installed and configured, 
>> and what resources exist to build your own.  Then maybe list some of the 
>> plugins that are currently available.
>
> The focus in this section is configuring and installing.  I want to give 
> people an idea of what's there.  The list of plugins is taken from my 
> config.py, although I did generalize things like archives and searching. 
> I'll probably just talk about what I have installed.

Ahh...  Ok.  Yeah, that sounds good.


> Good points that I didn't have are:
> 1. the plugin registry
> 2. general plugin installation and configuration.

I can talk about the second point in the plugins chapter I write because 
it's something that all plugin authors should be thinking about when 
writing their plugins.

I have vague memories of writing some of it in the plugin tutorials I 
wrote a while back.


>>> * Pyblosxom Architecture and Internals
>> 
>> If you can be more specific about what this entails, I can help you 
>> write/plan it out.  I did up some lifecycle stuff in the pyblosxom 
>> manual, but haven't gotten in-depth about callbacks and plugins yet. 
>> Chapter 7 is about callbacks.  Chapter 8 will be about building 
>> plugins.
>
> There's two categories of stuff here.  First I think I want to talk 
> about plugins, because I hope that more people will write plugins than 
> hack the core.  But I also want to talk about the core/framework because 
> we do have some things (see below) where we could probably use some 
> help.

Cool.


>> Going beyond that, I have no idea how solid the xmlrpc_bloggar and 
>> xmlrpc_metaweblog plugins are or what state they're in.
>
> I use the xmlrpc_metaweblog (which in some cases falls back to 
> xmlrpc_blogger) on a daily basis to post and manage posts via Ecto or 
> MarsEdit.  For that last little while I'm the only person that's worked 
> on them, so you can consider them mine.  I also will probably work on an 
> Atom API plugin one of these days.

Right--I had forgotten you wrote it.  I need to figure out a way of 
listing all the plugins that come in the contributed feed and associating 
them with maintainers.

Anyhow...  all in good time.

Rock on Ted--
/will


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