Re: Stepping up as maintainer
Akai <[email protected]> Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:22:32 +0300
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Thanks for the excellent feedback!
I've been devoting a lot of thought towards new users and improving the
ease of use in general these last few days. Once I deal with the burning
issues related to the move, I'd like to focus on making setup and
configuration easier.
I'll definitely look over your plugins and configuration - I don't know
under what license you released it, but I assume you would license it
appropriately [MIT licence
<https://github.com/pyblosxom/pyblosxom/blob/master/LICENSE>] for
inclusion in pyblosxom if I choose to include some of the features?
-Akai
On 6/25/2012 5:57 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote:
> Hello!
>
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 09:23:58PM +0300, Akai wrote:
>> I've stepped up as maintainer of pyblosxom and I'd like to know a little
>> bit about what both I and we as a team can do to make the project better.
>> I know there are a lot of blog engines out there so I'd like an idea of
>> what attracts you to using pyblosxom specifically, so I can make sure to
>> keep the best parts of what led you here, while continually making
>> things better.
> I wanted a blog that
>
> * was written in Python, in case I had to customize it (which I had to
> do a lot)
> * was easy to install (sudo apt-get install pyblosxom)
> * would let me edit blog posts using vim and keep them in a version
> control system (Subversion at the time, which was 2004)
> * would let me preview the blog posts on my laptop (even offline), and
> then publish them using the aforementioned version control system
> (svn post-commit hook that did an svn update on the web server)
> * would take care of the little details like formatting a valid
> RSS/JSON feed
>
> My preferences have changed slightly, and if I were looking for a blog
> today, I'd look for something that
>
> * had all of the above (although virtualenv + pip install something
> would be fine, I wouldn't insist on apt-get install'ing stuff from
> Ubuntu's repos any more; also I'd prefer git instead of Subversion)
> * worked a bit better out of the box (archives, tags, comments, pretty
> styles -- I had to waste too much time digging through various
> plugins trying to figure out what they did, how they did it, and
> then tweak the code/write my own plugins half of the time)
> * worked like a static blog compiler, integrating with Disqus for
> comments (AFAIU pyblosxom can already do that)
>
> The one thing that would most improve the experience of new Pyblosxom
> users would be a nice documentation site (built with Sphinx and hosted on
> Read The Docs, perhaps). And maybe a cookbook with recipes for the most
> common needs of blog users, like:
>
> * how can I have tags instead of exclusive categories for my posts?
> with a nice tag cloud or something?
> * how can I enable comments on my blog? what about spam filtering?
> * where can I find pretty themes?
> * what about a mobile skin?
> * yearly archives?
> * URLs that include year/month/day/blog-title.html?
> * paging?
> * next/previous post links on each individual post page?
> * dynamic archive tree on the sidebar a la blogger?
> * search box?
> * "read more after the split" for very long posts?
>
> I'm sorry about the lack of coherency for the latter part of the list;
> I'm a bit tired.
>
> I've some of these suggestions implemented on my blog. You can take a
> look at my plugins in this svn repository mirrored as a Bazaar
> repository on Launchpad: https://code.launchpad.net/~mgedmin/+junk/blog
>
> I've never found the time to clean up any of my plugin patches (or just
> merge them with the latest pyblosxom git and see if they work),
> unfortunately, and I don't see myself finding extra spare time at any
> time in the near future :(
>
>> I'd also like to know what versions you guys are using (and how many
>> people are using the latest version off GIT) so I can get a general idea
>> of how often changes should be made into an actual release.
> I currently use whatever is in the latest Ubuntu LTS. Or the one
> version before the latest, actually, at the moment. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
> has pyblosxom 1.4.3-1. Actually, 12.04 LTS has the same version.
>
>> Also, since Will is retiring the site, we have moved to github (the site
>> part will be up soon). As such, bugs and issues should be submitted
>> here: https://github.com/pyblosxom/pyblosxom
> I'm very excited about the Github move and the promise of increased
> activity.
>
> Marius Gedminas
>
>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks for the excellent feedback!<br>
I've been devoting a lot of thought towards new users and
improving the ease of use in general these last few days. Once I
deal with the burning issues related to the move, I'd like to
focus on making setup and configuration easier.<br>
<br>
I'll definitely look over your plugins and configuration - I don't
know under what license you released it, but I assume you would
license it appropriately [<a
href="https://github.com/pyblosxom/pyblosxom/blob/master/LICENSE">MIT
licence</a>] for inclusion in pyblosxom if I choose to include
some of the features? <br>
<br>
-Akai<br>
<br>
<br>
On 6/25/2012 5:57 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Hello!
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 09:23:58PM +0300, Akai wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I've stepped up as maintainer of pyblosxom and I'd like to know a little
bit about what both I and we as a team can do to make the project better.
I know there are a lot of blog engines out there so I'd like an idea of
what attracts you to using pyblosxom specifically, so I can make sure to
keep the best parts of what led you here, while continually making
things better.
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">
I wanted a blog that
* was written in Python, in case I had to customize it (which I had to
do a lot)
* was easy to install (sudo apt-get install pyblosxom)
* would let me edit blog posts using vim and keep them in a version
control system (Subversion at the time, which was 2004)
* would let me preview the blog posts on my laptop (even offline), and
then publish them using the aforementioned version control system
(svn post-commit hook that did an svn update on the web server)
* would take care of the little details like formatting a valid
RSS/JSON feed
My preferences have changed slightly, and if I were looking for a blog
today, I'd look for something that
* had all of the above (although virtualenv + pip install something
would be fine, I wouldn't insist on apt-get install'ing stuff from
Ubuntu's repos any more; also I'd prefer git instead of Subversion)
* worked a bit better out of the box (archives, tags, comments, pretty
styles -- I had to waste too much time digging through various
plugins trying to figure out what they did, how they did it, and
then tweak the code/write my own plugins half of the time)
* worked like a static blog compiler, integrating with Disqus for
comments (AFAIU pyblosxom can already do that)
The one thing that would most improve the experience of new Pyblosxom
users would be a nice documentation site (built with Sphinx and hosted on
Read The Docs, perhaps). And maybe a cookbook with recipes for the most
common needs of blog users, like:
* how can I have tags instead of exclusive categories for my posts?
with a nice tag cloud or something?
* how can I enable comments on my blog? what about spam filtering?
* where can I find pretty themes?
* what about a mobile skin?
* yearly archives?
* URLs that include year/month/day/blog-title.html?
* paging?
* next/previous post links on each individual post page?
* dynamic archive tree on the sidebar a la blogger?
* search box?
* "read more after the split" for very long posts?
I'm sorry about the lack of coherency for the latter part of the list;
I'm a bit tired.
I've some of these suggestions implemented on my blog. You can take a
look at my plugins in this svn repository mirrored as a Bazaar
repository on Launchpad: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://code.launchpad.net/~mgedmin/+junk/blog">https://code.launchpad.net/~mgedmin/+junk/blog</a>
I've never found the time to clean up any of my plugin patches (or just
merge them with the latest pyblosxom git and see if they work),
unfortunately, and I don't see myself finding extra spare time at any
time in the near future :(
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">I'd also like to know what versions you guys are using (and how many
people are using the latest version off GIT) so I can get a general idea
of how often changes should be made into an actual release.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
I currently use whatever is in the latest Ubuntu LTS. Or the one
version before the latest, actually, at the moment. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
has pyblosxom 1.4.3-1. Actually, 12.04 LTS has the same version.
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Also, since Will is retiring the site, we have moved to github (the site
part will be up soon). As such, bugs and issues should be submitted
here: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/pyblosxom/pyblosxom">https://github.com/pyblosxom/pyblosxom</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
I'm very excited about the Github move and the promise of increased
activity.
Marius Gedminas
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