Re: Re: problems with trackback

Ted Leung wrote:
>>
>> It would probably be helpful to toggle a DEBUG directive so that people
>> could enable it and be able to provide the output. What I always seem
>> to end up doing is littering these plugins with print statements so that
>> I can see what the heck is going on and it usually points me to the
>> problem. Some of the exception handlers only provide basic output; hardly
>> enough to get a feel for what happened. Seems half the time it's better
>> to not even catch the exception so I get some call stack dump from the
>> interpreter instead.
>
>
> Part of the reason that there isn't a lot of debug output is that I debug
> by running Wing's debugger against Pyblosxom to diagnose problems.  But I
> think that a debug directive controlling log stuff is probably the right
> way to go.  Steve Armstrong is overhauling the logging system, so once that
> settles down, that would be the most appropriate way to do it.
>

Alright I'll be looking for that new logging system. Providing a very verbose
mode will shake out many of the problems that people seem to be having lately.
I would be more than happy to go through the code and supply useful output
for debug purposes. It'll give me a chance to familiarize myself with the API.

>>
>> I just riddled the autoping.py script with verbose output to get it
>> working
>> last night. Most of the problems I've been finding seem to be API
>> issues as
>> opposed to actual logic bugs. Has the API been changing that much?
>
>
> There haven't been frequent API changes, but the switch to request/response
> objects hasn't quite made it to all the plugins (like autoping).  We
> rely on
> each plugin author to update their plugins, and people are running on
> different
> versions of pyblosxom.  I think that we're going to do a little better
> on keeping
> the plugins aligned with the pyblosxom version.
>

Why are plugins developed separately? I can see the need for non-core
plugins but can't some of the basic ones be maintained and distributed
with the core pyblosxom code? Things like xmlrpc, xmlrpc_metaweblog,
comments, and autoping seem to me like core functionalities of a blogging
system.

	-Eric

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"Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school."
	- Albert Einstein

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