Re: pyblosxom 1.4 released!

On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 05:20:28PM -0400, Will Guaraldi wrote:
> On 7/5/07, Chris G <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm!!  :-)
> >
> > It doesn't really work the way my mind works!  I expect to be able to
> > untar Pyblosxom into a temporary directory somewhere and then install
> > it 'from' there to the default place for web/http applications. Most
> > other packages work this way (though I must admit that quite a few web
> > applications don't).
> >
> > So, I've done it the 'right' way and have done:-
> >
> >     cd /var/www/htdocs          # default web app directory
> >     tar xzvf pyblosxom-1.4.tar.gz
> >     cd pyblosxom-1.4
> >     python setup.py install
> 
> Ok--if you're doing "python setup.py install", then that's installing
> PyBlosxom as a Python library.  If you do that, then you don't need to
> set the "codebase" property.
> 
> 
> > I suppose it does sort of make sense but it goes against the grain
> > (well my grain anyway!).
> 
> PyBlosxom is not a PHP application--so the setup is different from
> what you'd do for a PHP application.
> 
Yes, yes, OK.  I meant "applications in general" not any specific sort
of application.  I just prefer for an installation process to ask me
where I want to put files or to put them in a default location.  E.g.
if I install most non-web applications I can unpack the installation
anywhere I like and when I run the install it either asks me where I
want to put it or puts it in default locations.  I know web apps tend
to work a bit differently but I  still find it awkward.

I tend download things I want to install to a sub-directory in a
scratch area that I have called /ins, I unpack them there and then
expect to be able to install where I want (or to a default system
destination).  I can clear out /ins completely, or unmount it, or
whatever without losing any working parts of my installation.

It's more a "way to to it" philosophy type thing than anything else.

> 
> > I meant only that I presumably need to copy the plugins directory from
> > my old /var/www/htdocs/Pyblosxom to the new one.
> 
> I'm puzzled by this statement and your question.  I don't think I
> really understand what you did to install PyBlosxom and set up your
> blog.
> 
Ah, I put the plugins directory into the pyblosxom installation, apart
from anything else that makes it available to multiple users.


> Here's what I do.  I install PyBlosxom as a Python library.  i.e. I
> untar the pyblosxom.tar.gz file into a directory, then I do "python
> setup.py install" as root.
> 
Yes, OK, that's what I have done.

> All of my blog data is in a directory tree off of my home directory:
> 
>    /home/willg/
>       - blog/
>          - entries/        - blog entries
>          - flavours/       - flavour templates
>          - plugins/        - all of the plugins I have
> 
Where I differ is that I have put the plugins into the pyblosxom
installation rather than in my home directory.  That's why I asked if
I had to move them.  Since their location is specified in the
config.py file I don't *have* to move them of course but maybe I
should as I might remove the old pyblosxom.


> Then I copy the pyblosxom.cgi and config.py files from the pyblosxom
> web/ directory into my cgi-bin directory at
> /home/willg/public_html/cgi-bin/ .
> 
> Then I edit my config.py file setting the various directories and such.
> 
> It sounds like you're keeping all of your blog data (entries, flavours
> and plugins) along with the PyBlosxom code in the "Pyblosxom"
> directory, but I can't tell for sure.  I can't see exactly what you've
> got set up, so I can't really tell you exact instructions on what you
> need to do.
> 
Yes, that's about what I'm doing.


> Does that help?  If not, can you tell me what your directory tree
> under /var/www/htdocs/Pyblosxom looks like?
> 
Yes, I think I'm there now, thanks for your help (and patience).

-- 
Chris Green

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