Minutes, 15 Feb 2007 WS Description WG telcon

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  <h1>WS Description WG telcon<br />
  15 Feb 2007</h1>

  <p>See also: <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-irc">IRC log</a></p>

  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

  <div class="intro">
    <dl>
 <dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Charlton Baretto, Adobe Systems</dd>
<dd>Allen Brookes, Rogue Wave Software</dd>
<dd>Roberto Chinnici, Sun Microsystems</dd>
<dd>Youenn Fablet, Canon</dd>
<dd>Jacek Kopecky, DERI Innsbruck at the Leopold-Franzens-Universität Innsbruck, Austria</dd>
<dd>Amelia Lewis, TIBCO</dd>
<dd>Philippe Le Hegaret, W3C</dd>
<dd>Jonathan Marsh, Co-chair/WSO2</dd>
<dd>Monica Martin, Sun Microsystems</dd>
<dd>Jean-Jacques Moreau, Canon</dd>
<dd>Gilbert Pilz, BEA Systems</dd>
<dd>Tony Rogers, Co-chair/Computer Associates</dd>

<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Paul Downey, British Telecommunications</dd>
<dd>Arthur Ryman, IBM</dd>
<dd>Asir Vedamuthu, Microsoft</dd>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>Jonathan</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>youenn</dd>
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  <h2>Contents</h2>

  <ul>
    <li>
      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>

      <ol>
        <li><a href="#item01">Editorial Questions</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item02">CR114</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item03">CR123</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item04">CR126</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item05">CR144</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item06">CR143</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item07">CR112</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item08">CR147</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item09">CR142</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item10">CR148</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item11">CR149</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item12">CR150</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item13">CR152</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item14">CR153</a></li>
      </ol>
    </li>

    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
  </ul>
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  <div class="meeting">
    <p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>

    <p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>

    <p class='phone'>Minutes are approved</p>

	<pre>Review of Action items [.1].

[Interop]
DONE      2006-11-30: [interop] John Kaputin to create a test case 
                      with "required=false". 
DONE      2006-12-14: [interop] Jonathan to fix transferCodings - 
                      add control group

[WG]
?         2006-09-21: Jonathan to check periodically that SPARQL has 
                      added schemaLocation.
DONE [.6] 2006-12-14: plh to come up with a more detailed proposal for 
                      CR112 if possible
?         2007-01-04: Paul to report back on which test cases in the 
                      WSDL test suite fail the basic patterns, with
                      suggestions on how to address the issues.
?         2007-01-11: Jean-Jacques to provide more analysis on how 
                      difficult it would be deal with a Policy that 
                      only contains an MTOM policy assertion
DONE [.3] 2007-02-08: Jonathan to forward comments on one-way mep to 
                      XMLP working group.
DONE [.4] 2007-02-08: Jacek to approach TAG on subject of moving 
                      "safety" annotation from WSDL specification to 
                      SAWSDL.
DONE [.5] 2007-02-08: Jacek to investigate soap and http with respect 
                      to soap action header.

Current Editorial Action Items

Note: Editorial AIs associated with LC issues recorded at [.2].

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/5/cr-issues/actions_owner.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2007Feb/0000.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2007Feb/0066.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2007Feb/0051.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2007Feb/0100.html</pre>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>alewis</cite>&gt; +1 to jonathan's
    proposed comment.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>charltonb</cite>&gt; +1 to
    jonathan</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to forward his WSDL1.1
    identifiers comments [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p><a name="action02"
    id="action02"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Jonathan</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to drum up a WS-A reviewer
    off-list [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item01">Editorial Questions</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>CR109:</cite> go with option a</p>

    <h3 id="item02">CR114</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> I enumerated 6 mapping
    options (a to f)<br />
    ... a and d were discussed and accepted. Remains the case of
    SOAP-Response<br />
    ... mixed with robust-inonly and inonly</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>youn:</cite> I am not sure there is a
    use case now for SOAP response with inonly and robust
    inonly.</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> we should refer to
    SOAP1.2 Second Edition</p>

    <h3 id="item03">CR123</h3>

    <p class='phone'>No issue</p>

    <h3 id="item04">CR126</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> I will foward this to
    arthur</p>

    <h3 id="item05">CR144</h3>

    <p class='phone'>Problem of section reference</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>charltonb</cite>&gt; +1 to JJM</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> answered by mail</p>

    <h3 id="item06">CR143</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> we can no longer
    describe transfer coding header at the WSDL level but an impl
    can still set it as it wants</p>

    <h3 id="item07">CR112</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Phillipe:</cite> summarizes the
    issue<br />
    ... I propose to add a new section to HTTP binding to combine
    the location and address properties to compute the request
    IRI<br />
    ... The remainder of the proposal is to align with this</p>

    <p class='phone'>Discussion about the last part of the
    proposal: address values that contain a ?</p>

    <p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: Close
    with 112 according philippe proposal and add a
    note</strong><br />
    ... , note about http url that should not contain ? or #</p>

    <h3 id="item08">CR147</h3>

    <p class='phone'>No answers from TAG</p>

    <h3 id="item09">CR142</h3>

    <p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: 
     CR142 closed</strong><br />
    ... by removing the last trailing slash</p>

    <h3 id="item10">CR148</h3>

    <p class='phone'>Consensus from XMLP that you should not put a
    content type on a GET request.</p>

    <p class='phone'>then no soap action can be set for SOAP Get
    requests</p>

    <p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: Close
    148 by adding a note to 5.10.3 telling that setting action has
    no effect when soap response is in use no
    action</strong></p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to check whether the test
    suite needs to be fixed with regards to SOAP Response and
    action [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item11">CR149</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>inserted</cite>&gt; RESOLUTION: Remove
    fixed-width type from "input".</p>

    <h3 id="item12">CR150</h3>

    <p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: Close
    with no action*</strong></p>

    <h3 id="item13">CR152</h3>

    <p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: Close
       CR152 with no action</strong></p>

    <h3 id="item14">CR153</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>plh</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/ns/wsdl">http://www.w3.org/ns/wsdl</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Zakim</cite>&gt; JacekK, you wanted to
    say we should stick</p>

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  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
  Items</a></h2><!-- New Action Items -->
  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to check
  whether the test suite needs to be fixed with regards to SOAP
  Response and action [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to drum
  up a WS-A reviewer off-list [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to
  forward his WSDL1.1 identifiers comments [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />

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