Minutes, 22 Feb 2007 Web Services Description WG telcon
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<h1>Web Services Description Working Group telcon</h1>
<h2>22 Feb 2007</h2>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-irc">IRC log</a> (partial)</p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Roberto Chinnici, Sun Microsystems</dd>
<dd>Paul Downey, British Telecommunications</dd>
<dd>Youenn Fablet, Canon</dd>
<dd>Jacek Kopecky, DERI Innsbruck at the Leopold-Franzens-Universität Innsbruck, Austria</dd>
<dd>Amelia Lewis, TIBCO</dd>
<dd>Philippe Le Hegaret, W3C</dd>
<dd>Jonathan Marsh, Co-chair/WSO2</dd>
<dd>Monica Martin, Sun Microsystems</dd>
<dd>Jean-Jacques Moreau, Canon</dd>
<dd>Gilbert Pilz, BEA Systems</dd>
<dd>Tony Rogers, Co-chair/Computer Associates</dd>
<dd>Asir Vedamuthu, Microsoft</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Arthur Ryman, IBM</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Jonathan</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>JacekK</dd>
</dl>
</div>
<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">approval of minutes</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">action item review</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">administrivia</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">issue CR147</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">CR153</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">CR issue 21</a></li>
<li><a href="#item07">CR154</a></li>
<li><a href="#item08">adjuncts 6.8.1.1</a></li>
<li><a href="#item09">implementation status summary</a></li>
<li><a href="#item10">publication status and plan</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>: JacekK</p>
<h3 id="item01">approval of minutes</h3>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLVED: minutes of last week approved</strong></p>
<h3 id="item02">action item review</h3>
<pre>Review of Action items [.1].
? 2006-09-21: Jonathan to check periodically that SPARQL has
added schemaLocation.
? 2007-01-04: Paul to report back on which test cases in the
WSDL test suite fail the basic patterns, with
suggestions on how to address the issues.
? 2007-01-11: Jean-Jacques to provide more analysis on how
difficult it would be deal with a Policy that
only contains an MTOM policy assertion
DONE [.3] 2007-02-15: Jonathan to forward his WSDL1.1 identifiers
Comments
DONE 2007-02-15: Jonathan to drum up a WS-A reviewer off-list
DONE [.4] 2007-02-15: Jonathan to check whether the test suite needs
to be fixed with regards to SOAP Response and
action
Current Editorial Action Items
Note: Editorial AIs associated with LC issues recorded at [.2].
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/5/cr-issues/actions_owner.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2007Feb/0118.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2007Feb/0158.html</pre>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> we may not need to review the WS-A spec formally in this WG, due to the overlap with WS-A<br/>
... I fixed the test suite wrt: soap action on GET</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>youenn:</cite> you broke put and didn't fix delete</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jjm:</cite> XMLP asked us to review the one-way MEP...</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> I believe we did that<br/>
... Jonathan: I may want to check the delivery of one-way MEP comments to XMLP</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Jonathan</cite>> <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2007Feb/0000.html">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2007Feb/0000.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> done<br/>
... will fix the PUT and DELETE</p>
<h3 id="item03">administrivia</h3>
<h3 id="item04">issue CR147</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> Jonathan: still waiting for the TAG to reply to our question</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jacek:</cite> they will discuss it on Monday, probably</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> Jonathan: we'll revisit it next week, then</p>
<h3 id="item05">CR153</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> Jonathan: anybody against changing to http://www.w3.org/ns/wsdl or wsdl2?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jacek:</cite> I like wsdl2</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jjm:</cite> I like the change</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jacek:</cite> would we also change the documents to version 2, not 2.0?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> why?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Roberto:</cite> why even 2?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>gpilz:</cite> the 2 helps people distinguish from wsdl1.1</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> without '2', we make a political statement that WSDL 2.0 is the one true version</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jacek:</cite> if we adopt /wsdl and there's wsdl3, would we have /wsdl and then /wsdl3?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> that's a very unlikely scenario<br/>
...most new things can be extensions</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Roberto:</cite> policy has /ns/policy with no version</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>monica:</cite> we could ask the W3C about how they plan to handle future versions</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> some namespaces have RDDL sets of links<br/>
... Jonathan: next version would give us the question again, there's a central authority on this /ns/</p>
<p class='phone'>chad, question: namespace<br/>
... option 0: /2006/01/wsdl<br/>
... option 1: /ns/wsdl<br/>
... option 2: /ns/wsdl2<br/>
... option 3: /ns/wsdl20<br/>
... option 4: /ns/wsdl2.0</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Roberto</cite>> are there precedents for /ns/wsdl2.0 ?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>TonyR:</cite> wsdl20 is like the number twenty</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> but it's similar to the shortname in /TR/</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jjm</cite>> vote: 1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JacekK</cite>> vote: 2, 3, 0</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>TonyR</cite>> vote: 2,1,0,4,3</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>plh</cite>> vote: 2, 1, 3</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>gpilz</cite>> vote: 2, 3, 4, 1, 0</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Roberto</cite>> vote: 1, 4, 0, 3</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>youenn</cite>> vote: 1,2</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Jonathan</cite>> vote: 1, 2</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jkaputin</cite>> vote: 1, 2, 3</p>
<p class='phone'>chad, count</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chad:</cite>> Question: namespace<br/>
... Option 0: /2006/01/wsdl (0)<br/>
... Option 1: /ns/wsdl (5)<br/>
... Option 2: /ns/wsdl2 (4)<br/>
... Option 3: /ns/wsdl20 (0)<br/>
... Option 4: /ns/wsdl2.0 (0)<br/>
... 10 voters: alewis abstained,gpilz (2,3,4,1,0),JacekK (2,3,0),jjm (1),jkaputin (1,2,3),Jonathan (1,2),plh (2,1,3),Roberto (1,4,0,3),TonyR (2,1,0,4,3),youenn (1,2)<br/>
... Round 1: Count of first place rankings.<br/>
... Candidate 1 is elected.</br>
... Winner is option 1 - /ns/wsdl</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>monica</cite>> vote: 1, 4, 0, 3</p>
<p class='phone'>a straw-poll indicates that /ns/wsdl is preferred by the WG</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pauld</cite>> chad, option 5: /2007/01/wsdl</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pauld</cite>> thinks /ns/* sucks</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Jonathan</cite>> chad, options</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chad</cite>> Question: namespace<br/>
... Option 0: /2006/01/wsdl (0)<br/>
... Option 1: /ns/wsdl (6)<br/>
... Option 2: /ns/wsdl2 (4)<br/>
... Option 3: /ns/wsdl20 (0)<br/>
... Option 4: /ns/wsdl2.0 (0)<br/>
... Option 5: /2007/01/wsdl (0)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> it seems people are interested in moving away from dated form</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>TonyR:</cite> a bit of history is good for you</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>plh:</cite> the tools will remember the dates easily</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>pauld:</cite> I like the dated thing in face of multiple versions<br/>
... typing it, I'm happy to use the date</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> I prefer without date because it's not just a namespace, but other identifiers are based on it and I tend to type those so it's easier</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>gpilz:</cite> those URIs might not even change between versions</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pauld</cite>> it's "what colour are the bicycle sheds"</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JacekK</cite>> vote: 0, 3, 2
<p class='irc'><<cite>asir</cite>> vote: 1, 2</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>asir</cite>> chad, options<br/>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chad</cite>> Question: namespace<br/>
... Option 0: /2006/01/wsdl (1)<br/>
... Option 1: /ns/wsdl (7)<br/>
... Option 2: /ns/wsdl2 (3)<br/>
... Option 3: /ns/wsdl20 (0)<br/>
... Option 4: /ns/wsdl2.0 (0)<br/>
... Option 5: /2007/01/wsdl (0)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pauld</cite>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_Parkinson's_Bicycle_Shed_Effect">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_Parkinson's_Bicycle_Shed_Effect</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>pauld:</cite> without versioning, we just pick, but expecting more versions, we might have a hard time with /ns/wsdl</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JacekK</cite>> vote: 2, 3, 0
<p class='irc'><<cite>jjm</cite>> vote: 1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jjm</cite>> votes: 1
<p class='irc'><<cite>asir</cite>> vote: 1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>asir</cite>> chad, options</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chad</cite>> Question: namespace<br/>
... Option 0: /2006/01/wsdl (0)<br/>
... Option 1: /ns/wsdl (7)<br/>
... Option 2: /ns/wsdl2 (4)<br/>
... Option 3: /ns/wsdl20 (0)<br/>
... Option 4: /ns/wsdl2.0 (0)<br/>
... Option 5: /2007/01/wsdl (0)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pauld</cite>> vote: 5</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>plh</cite>> vote: 1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pauld</cite>> vote: 5, 0</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> any objections to changing our namespace(s) to http://www.w3.org/ns/wsdl</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>gpilz</cite>> vote: 5</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>asir</cite>> chad, options</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chad</cite>> Question: namespace<br/>
... Option 0: /2006/01/wsdl (0)<br/>
... Option 1: /ns/wsdl (8)<br/>
... Option 2: /ns/wsdl2 (2)<br/>
... Option 3: /ns/wsdl20 (0)<br/>
... Option 4: /ns/wsdl2.0 (0)<br/>
... Option 5: /2007/01/wsdl (2)</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLVED: namespace changed to http://www.w3.org/ns/wsdl</strong></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> issue CR153 closed</p>
<h3 id="item06">CR issue 21</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> this will be bundled with 147</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pauld</cite>> it's a configuration over convention</p>
<h3 id="item07">CR154</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Jonathan</cite>> <a href="http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8#InterfaceMessageReference-1205002">http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8#InterfaceMessageReference-1205002</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> seems that the assertion can be coded in the schema</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>pauld:</cite> but this duplication is harmless</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> this assertion would not surface from the validator because schema validation would reject it earlier</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> and it'd be an easy fix</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Roberto:</cite> +1</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jkaputin:</cite> +1</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: assertion markup around this assertion to be removed, and similarly the new corresponding assertion around interface faults, just added</strong></p>
<h3 id="item08">adjuncts 6.8.1.1</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Jonathan</cite>> <a href="http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20-adjuncts.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8#_http_operation_location_cited_ser">http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20-adjuncts.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8#_http_operation_location_cited_ser</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> should offensive characters in the template get encoded together with the filled-in values?<br/>
... Jonathan: some more confusion in the text found (double negatives)<br/>
... Jonathan: first part of the fix - move the bullets with assertions in 6.8.1.1 up front<br/>
... Jonathan: and removing NOT from second bullet of current second bullet</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jacek:</cite> NOT is not a RFC2119 keyword, right?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> and then the IRI is transcoded into URI<br/>
... the RFC says that some characters SHOULD be encoded - this impacts us<br/>
... Jonathan: canon and wso2 are planning to honor that SHOULD</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>youenn:</cite> RFC2396, sec 3.3 says & is allowed in path<br/>
... ... and ; = ? / are reserved</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> maybe we should move this to email, we need a number of double-checks<br/>
... about semicolon, equals, ampersand...<br/>
... Jonathan: and {query parameter separator}</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jacek:</cite> the query parameter separator is harmful in query</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> I feel we just need to drop the first subbulet of the second bullet</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> recapitulation:<br/>
... move the 4th and 5th bullets up, remove the NOT from the second subbulet of second bullet<br/>
... Jonathan: remove first subbulet of second bullet<br/>
... Jonathan: remove ; and = from the remaining subbullet<br/>
... add & there</p>
<a name="action00" id="action00"></a>
<p class='irc'><strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to put the proposal on the list for us to double-check.</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> we'll take this to the list<br />
... other issues? Youenn may have had one</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>youenn:</cite> it's about the query
parameter separator value, which may be anything</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> yes, but what if it's
something that interacts with the encoding algorithm?<br />
... so should we restrict the values to something more
manageable, like {';', '&'}</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>youenn:</cite> maybe a SHOULD
restriction to the two could be sufficient</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> e.g. # would not be a
good query param separator<br />
... how much do we want to keep people from hanging
themselves?<br />
... we can come up with a list of harmless characters, and even
put it in schema</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to figure out what characters
can be used as query separators without causing harm [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'>people happy with the direction</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> any other issues?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jkaputin:</cite> I had one<br />
... on the schema, about #any, #other, and it still has
features and properties?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>monica</cite>> there is an
issue</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Jonathan</cite>> <a href=
"http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20.xsd">
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20.xsd</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> the editor's copy
doesn't have f&p</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>youenn</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2007Feb/0006.html">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2007Feb/0006.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>youenn:</cite> still on the URI
encoding, people are talking about it in the W3C URI list</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> do you think they say
something that we could use?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>youenn:</cite> it'd be good to have
consensus with them</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> we can send a summary
of our proposal to them</p><a name="action02" id=
"action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to send a summary of our URI
templating text to the URI list [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item09">implementation status summary</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> we're getting closer to
completion<br />
... all green on interchange results<br />
... no results for LocationTemplate-2G</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>youenn:</cite> working on that</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> ... few reds expected
to remain<br />
... all-green would assure us that no new issues should be
coming<br />
... results for validation should probably be refreshed before
director's call</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>youenn:</cite> some of the results may
stay red in PR</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> director's call should
come within 10 days after our vote to move to PR</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jkaputin:</cite> we may have better
results</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> msg-level tests are the
main thing to focus on now</p>
<h3 id="item10">publication status and plan</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>jjm:</cite> editorial items
implemented</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Roberto:</cite> have problems with
CVS</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> we should have
everything done before we vote for PR next week<br />
... renumbering assertions?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>JacekK:</cite> where do the assertion
IDs show up?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> in the summary,
fragment-id's, and test suite in validation<br />
... two numbering schemes - token, then number or a coded
number</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>gpilz:</cite> do we have a proposal for
renumbering?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> arthur came up with a
new system</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jkaputin:</cite> consistency would be
good</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> the question is about
who does it</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>JacekK:</cite> don't think they're
prominent enough that they need to be changed</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> the question is whether
we have somebody to do it<br />
... if we don't care, let's drop this</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jkaputin:</cite> it'd be good to have
the IDs identify a section in the spec</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> the assertion ID is a
fragment ID, direct link<br />
... I'll send a mail to Arthur that we don't really care about
the renumbering</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jkaputin:</cite> if I send you a patch,
would it be considered?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> it would be
accepted<br />
... let's talk with Arthur</p><a name="action03" id=
"action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Jonathan</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to start renumbering
discussion [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> any necessary changes
to the SOAP 1.1 binding?<br />
... RDF mapping?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>JacekK:</cite> it will be updated for
the PR publication round</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> next week we'll ask
about new WDs of SOAP 1.1 binding, additional MEPs, and RDF
mapping</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alewis</cite>> noted, jonathan.</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> the additional MEPs
title should look more official<br />
... similar to the specs</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jjm:</cite> CR136 implementing needs the
regeneration of the component table</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>plh:</cite> I can do it</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> there's a - component
which is weird<br />
... see you next week</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>asir:</cite> not aware of any changes
for SOAP 1.1 binding doc</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to put the proposal on the list for us to double-check. [recorded in <a href="#action00">#action00</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to
figure out what characters can be used as query separators
without causing harm [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to send
a summary of our URI templating text to the URI list [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to start
renumbering discussion [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/22-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
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