Minutes, 12 April 2007 WS Description WG telcon

"Jonathan Marsh" <[email protected]> Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:01:06 -0700
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  <h1>WS Description WG telcon</h1>

  <h2>12 Apr 2007</h2>

  <p><a href=
  'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2007Apr/0001.html'>
  Agenda</a></p>

  <p>See also: <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc">IRC log</a></p>

  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

  <div class="intro">
    <dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Charlton Baretto, Adobe Systems</dd>
<dd>Allen Brookes, Rogue Wave Software</dd>
<dd>Youenn Fablet, Canon</dd>
<dd>Ram Jeyaraman, Microsoft</dd>
<dd>Jacek Kopecky, DERI Innsbruck at the Leopold-Franzens-Universität Innsbruck, Austria</dd>
<dd>Amelia Lewis, TIBCO</dd>
<dd>Philippe Le Hegaret, W3C</dd>
<dd>Jonathan Marsh, Co-chair/WSO2</dd>
<dd>Monica Martin, Sun Microsystems</dd>
<dd>Gilbert Pilz, BEA Systems</dd>
<dd>Tony Rogers, Co-chair/Computer Associates</dd>
<dd>Arthur Ryman, IBM</dd>
      <dt>Regrets</dt>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>Jonathan</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>Arthur</dd>
    </dl>
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  <h2>Contents</h2>

  <ul>
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      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>

      <ol>
        <li><a href="#item01">Last Call Status</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item02">WSDL 1.1 element identifiers
        resolutions</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item03">Namespace documents have bad links to
        the specs</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item04">Editor's versions of the schemas are
        invalid</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item05">Issue 4423: "Family" is too
        informal</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item06">Issue 4424: Swap sections 1.2 and
        1.3</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item07">Issue 4425: Interaction between IRI
        advice and HTTP binding</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item08">Issue 4426: Disambiguate uses of
        curly brackets</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item09">Issue 4427: Multiple namespace
        clarification</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item10">Issue 4428: Ambiguous
        "element"</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item11">Issue 4429: Redundancy in
        2.7.1</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item12">Issue 4430: Endpoint address ? and #
        note</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item13">Issue 4431: Definition of equivalent
        value</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item14">Issue 4432: Equivalence based on
        lexical equivalence or value</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item15">Issue 4433: Dangling "below"</a></li>
      </ol>
    </li>

    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
  </ul>
  <hr />

  <div class="meeting">
    <pre>Review of Action items [.1].

?         2006-09-21: Jonathan to check periodically that SPARQL has 
                      added schemaLocation.
?         2007-01-04: Paul to report back on which test cases in the 
                      WSDL test suite fail the basic patterns, with
                      suggestions on how to address the issues.
DONE [.3] 2007-03-29: Jonathan to add the previous message results
                      back into the dashboard. 
DONE [.4] 2007-03-29: Jonathan to add Jean-Jacques's list as Bugzilla 
                      items.

Current Editorial Action Items
?         2007-03-15: Philippe to update the namespace documents upon PR pub.
?         2007-03-29: Part 1 Editors, Bug 4381 [.5]
?         2007-03-29: Part 1 Editors, Bug 4421 [.6]
?         2007-03-29: Part 2 Editors, Bug 4422 [.7]

Note: Editorial AIs associated with LC issues recorded at [.2].

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/5/cr-issues/actions_owner.html
[.3]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/test-suite/Dashboard.html
[.4]
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=releva
nce+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=WSDL&content
[.5] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4381
[.6] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4421
[.7] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4422</pre>
    
    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Jonathan</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4381">http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4381</a></p><a name="action01"
    id="action01"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Jonathan</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to add Bugzilla links to the
    Home Page, including ed action queries. [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item01">Last Call Status</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> CR closes April
    15<br />
    ... estimate 3 weeks to close CR issues<br />
    ... also need to demonstrate utility of HTTP binding, e.g.
    Flickr - need volunteers</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Arthur:</cite> I'll try to describe
    Bugzilla</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> Flickr has hard to
    describe authenication<br />
    ... need a few more, e.g. Google, Amazon</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Jonathan</cite>&gt; Some APIs to
    choose from: <a href=
    "http://www.programmableweb.com/apilist">http://www.programmableweb.com/apilist</a></p>

    <h3 id="item02">WSDL 1.1 element identifiers
    resolutions</h3><a name="action02" id="action02"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Charlton to look at resolution of WSDL
    1.1 element identifiers resolutions [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item03">Namespace documents have bad links to the
    specs</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> Philippe has an action
    to handle this</p>

    <h3 id="item04">Editor's versions of the schemas are
    invalid</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> define a prefix to
    workaround the existence of ENTITIES in the ed copies</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>monica</cite>&gt; only on irc - mtg
    conflicts</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>monica</cite>&gt; :&gt;)</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Philippe:</cite> let's not change
    now</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> Drop it</p>

    <h3 id="item05">Issue 4423: "Family" is too informal</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> JJM thinks "document
    family" is too informal<br />
    ... editorial - use Suite instead of Family</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Tony:</cite> I like the informality of
    "family"</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> propose to strike
    "family" - any objections?</p>

    <p class='phone'>Resolved</p><a name="action03" id=
    "action03"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Philippe to implement resolution
    [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item06">Issue 4424: Swap sections 1.2 and 1.3</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> Objections?</p>

    <p class='phone'>RESOLVED</p><a name="action04" id=
    "action04"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Philippe <strong>[DONE]</strong>
    [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item07">Issue 4425: Interaction between IRI advice and
    HTTP binding</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Philippe:</cite> propose to close with
    no action because this is already in Part 1</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> objections?</p>

    <p class='phone'>RESOLVED</p>

    <h3 id="item08">Issue 4426: Disambiguate uses of curly
    brackets</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> propose to close with
    no action - objections?</p>

    <p class='phone'>RESOLVED</p>

    <h3 id="item09">Issue 4427: Multiple namespace
    clarification</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Jonathan</cite>&gt; "corresponds to a
    collection with" -&gt; "also contains"</p><a name="action05"
    id="action05"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Philippe to propose resolution
    [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>

    <p class='phone'>Use the keyword needsReview when adding
    proposals to Bugzilla comments</p>

    <h3 id="item10">Issue 4428: Ambiguous "element"</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> see proposal in comment
    of bug - objections?</p>

    <p class='phone'>RESOLVED</p>

    <h3 id="item11">Issue 4429: Redundancy in 2.7.1</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jonathan:</cite> looks like a duplicate
    of bug 4381 - defer discussion till then</p>

    <h3 id="item12">Issue 4430: Endpoint address ? and #
    note</h3><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Philippe to investigate [recorded in
    <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item13">Issue 4431: Definition of equivalent
    value</h3><a name="action07" id="action07"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Assign to Arthur [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item14">Issue 4432: Equivalence based on lexical
    equivalence or value</h3>

    <p class='phone'>equivale...</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Resolution:</cite> strike word "exact"
    and use boolean to illustrate the value space equivalence
    concept</p><a name="action08" id="action08"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Philippe to implement [recorded in
    <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item15">Issue 4433: Dangling "below"</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Propose:</cite> Replace "According to
    the constraints given below" with "Note that"</p>

    <p class='phone'>RESOLVED</p><a name="action09" id=
    "action09"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Philippe to fix [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p>
  </div>

  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
  Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Assign to Arthur
  [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Charlton to look
  at resolution of WSDL 1.1 element identifiers resolutions
  [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jonathan to add
  Bugzilla links to the Home Page, including ed action queries.
  [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Philippe to fix
  [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Philippe to
  implement [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Philippe to
  implement resolution [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Philippe to
  investigate [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Philippe to
  propose resolution [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />

  &nbsp;<br />
  <strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Philippe
  [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />

  &nbsp;<br />
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