Re: User Hypermedia format

iirc, "transclusion" is a term created by Ted Nelson? Not sure if that's a
good or a bad thing.


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Glenn Block <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Thanks
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> Is transclude a widely understood term? Did you consider having an
> attribute like link-type with values of 'outbound' or 'inbound'? When I
> first read H-Factors, the usage of outbound and inbound was very obvious.
> Transclude was not.
>
> Just sharing my experience / very first impression.
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> On Thursday, February 27, 2014, mike amundsen <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> right, this aims directly at that H-Factors.
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>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Glenn Block <[email protected]>wrote:
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>> Thanks for clarifying. So this relates to what are outbound and inbound links
>> in HFactors?
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>> On Thursday, February 27, 2014, mike amundsen <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Yep - Matt's got it.
>>
>> these are equivalent:
>>
>> <data url="..." rel="logo" transclude="true" />
>>  and
>> <img src="..." rel="logo" />
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>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt McClure <[email protected]>wrote:
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>> Glenn,
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>> I'll let Mike correct me if I'm wrong but I believe transclusion is
>> analogous to the behavior of an <img> or <iframe> element in HTML. It's
>> telling the client to fetch the transcluded resource, just including it by
>> reference instead of by value.
>>
>> Matt
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>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 2:04 AM, Glenn Block <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Hi Mike
>>
>> Cool to see this. I am looking over the format. I can see there's some CJ
>> footprints there ;-)
>>
>> Question on transclude. What do you mean when you say that if it is true
>> it should be embedded in the current document, do you mean it is already
>> present inline?
>>
>> I am asking in reference to this example:
>>
>>               {
>>                 "name" : "person",
>>                 "rel" : "item",
>>                 "url" : "http://example.org/people/1",
>>                 "data" :
>>                 [
>>                   {"name" : "givenName", "value" : "Mike"},
>>                   {"name" : "familyName", "value" : "Amundsen"},
>>                   {"name" : "email", "value" : "[email protected]"},
>>                   {"name" : "avatarUrl", "transclude" : "true", "value" : "http://example.org/avatars/1"}
>>                 ]
>>               },
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>>
>> Above, transclude is true. Where is the embedding / how does it play in?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Glenn
>>
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>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:25 PM, mike amundsen <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> yep - you got it right.
>>
>> i might add some prose that sets expectations on which level of support
>> for RFC6570 is needed in order to be uber-compliant. that might lower the
>> bar for implementation.
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>>
>>
>>
>> mamund
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