Re: RESTful Toggle
"Jonathan Ballard [email protected] [rest-discuss]" <[email protected]> Wed, 9 Jul 2014 14:44:07 -0700
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--001a11362406a05cb904fdc99b85 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" It may require another resource. Move/Swap/Redirect the two states (on and = off) based on current state rather than one specific state that has no mech= anism itself for toggle. It depends on how persistent and concurrent you wa= nt the two states. Solution: POST /state/on POST /state/off PUT /state/to= ggle DELETE /state Returns semantics for redirected or moved resources. Ov= erride with new OPTION:TOGGLE. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Keith P H= assen [email protected] [rest-discuss] <rest-discuss-noreply@yahoogrou= ps.com> wrote: > > > You could implement a POST operation that simply flip= s the state, whatever > it is. If you implement PUT, the request should be= idempotent but it's > unclear if that's what you intend here. Protecting = against the kind of > race conditions you mention is usually performed with= conditional requests > (If-Match, If-None-Match, etc). > > K > > > > On Tu= e, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:28 PM, 'Simpson, Robby (GE Energy Management)' > robby.= [email protected] [rest-discuss] <[email protected]> > wrot= e: > >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I've been scratching my head over this one for a wh= ile and am hoping I can >> get some help. >> >> Imagine a light switch with= one simple resource: /state , where state can >> be "On" or "Off." >> >> O= ne can PUT to /state , changing /state to either "On" or "Off." >> Similarl= y, a GET to /state will tell you if the light is currently "On" or >> "Off.= " >> >> Where I'm struggling is with a safe "Toggle" mechanism. That is, if= >> /state is "On", change it to "Off" and vice versa. >> >> I understand t= hat one solution would be to simply perform a GET on /state >> and then PUT= the opposite. However, I am concerned with both the overhead >> and latenc= y this entails as well as the potential for a race condition >> (what if /s= tate changes between the GET and the PUT?). >> >> Any solution I've looked = at thus far seems to violate RESTful principles, >> particularly regarding = idempotency. In short, can one safely toggle? >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> = Thanks, >> Robby >> >> > > --001a11362406a05cb904fdc99b85 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> =20 <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p><div dir=3D"ltr">It may require another resource. Move/Swap/Redire= ct the two states (on and off) based on current state rather than one speci= fic state that has no mechanism itself for toggle. It depends on how persis= tent and concurrent you want the two states.<div> <br></div><div>Solution:</div><div><br></div><div>POST /state/on</div><div>= POST /state/off</div><div>PUT /state/toggle</div><div>DELETE /state<br><div= ><br></div></div><div>Returns semantics for redirected or moved resources. = Override with new OPTION:TOGGLE.=C2=A0</div> <div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail= _quote">On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Keith P Hassen <a href=3D"mailto:ke= [email protected]">[email protected]</a> [rest-discuss] <span dir= =3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> <u></u> =20 <div style=3D"background-color:#fff;"> <span>=C2=A0</span> <div> <div> <div> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p></p><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa= mily:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);">You coul= d implement a POST operation that simply flips the state, whatever it is.= =C2=A0 If you implement PUT, the request should be idempotent but it's = unclear if that's what you intend here.=C2=A0 Protecting against the ki= nd of race conditions you mention is usually performed with conditional req= uests (If-Match, If-None-Match, etc).<br> <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:trebuchet ms,sa= ns-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);">K<br><br></div></div><div cl= ass><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, J= ul 8, 2014 at 5:28 PM, 'Simpson, Robby (GE Energy Management)' <a h= ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]<= /a> [rest-discuss] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:rest-discuss-nor= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]= m</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> <u></u> =20 <div style=3D"background-color:#fff;"> <span>=C2=A0</span> <div> <div> <div> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p>Hi,<br> <br> I've been scratching my head over this one for a while and am hoping I = can<br> get some help.<br> <br> Imagine a light switch with one simple resource: /state , where state can<b= r> be "On" or "Off."<br> <br> One can PUT to /state , changing /state to either "On" or "O= ff."<br> Similarly, a GET to /state will tell you if the light is currently "On= " or<br> "Off."<br> <br> Where I'm struggling is with a safe "Toggle" mechanism. That= is, if<br> /state is "On", change it to "Off" and vice versa.<br> <br> I understand that one solution would be to simply perform a GET on /state<b= r> and then PUT the opposite. However, I am concerned with both the overhead<= br> and latency this entails as well as the potential for a race condition<br> (what if /state changes between the GET and the PUT?).<br> <br> Any solution I've looked at thus far seems to violate RESTful principle= s,<br> particularly regarding idempotency. In short, can one safely toggle?<br> <br> Any suggestions?<br> <br> Thanks,<br> Robby<br> <br> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color:#fff;min-height:0;"></div> </div> =20=20 </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </div><p></p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color:#fff;min-height:0;"></div> </div> =20=20 </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style=3D"color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"clear:both"> </div> <div id=3D"fromDMARC" style=3D"margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background= -color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: Jonathan Ballard <[email protected]> <hr s= tyle=3D"height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E= 3;"> </div> <div style=3D"clear:both"> </div> <table cellspacing=3D4px style=3D"margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px= ; color: #2D50FD;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bo= ld; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD= " href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/rest-discuss/conversations/me= ssages/19691;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJxb3M1cWRjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQzMTkyNTUEZ3J= wc3BJZAMxNzA1NzAxMDE0BG1zZ0lkAzE5NjkxBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTQwND= k1NzAxOA--?act=3Dreply&messageNum=3D19691">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px;" > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%20%5Brest-= discuss%5D%20RESTful%20Toggle" style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50= FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px;"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%= 20%5Brest-discuss%5D%20RESTful%20Toggle" style=3D"text-decoration: none; co= lor: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px;" > <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/rest-discuss/con= versations/newtopic;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJldWxxdHE0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQzMTky= NTUEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1NzAxMDE0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQwNDk1NzAxOA-= -" style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px;color: #2D50FD;" > <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/= rest-discuss/conversations/topics/19657;_ylc=3DX3oDMTM2ZTQ1bHFmBF9TAzk3MzU5= NzE0BGdycElkAzQzMTkyNTUEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1NzAxMDE0BG1zZ0lkAzE5NjkxBHNlYwNmdHI= Ec2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQwNDk1NzAxOAR0cGNJZAMxOTY1Nw--" style=3D"text-decora= tion: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (34) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> =20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #f2f2f2; font-family: Ver= dana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transf= orm: uppercase; "><a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/rest-discu= ss/info;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlb2szdWcyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQzMTkyNTUEZ3Jwc3BJ= ZAMxNzA1NzAxMDE0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTQwNDk1NzAxOA--" style=3D"= text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a></span> <ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: in= line;"> <li style=3D"border-right: 1px solid #000; font-weight: 700; di= splay: inline; padding: 0 5px; margin-left: 0;"> <span class=3D"cat"><a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/re= st-discuss/members/all;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJmaTluZWhsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQzM= TkyNTUEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1NzAxMDE0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzE0MDQ5NTcw= MTg-" style=3D"text-decoration: none;">New Members</a></span> <span class=3D"ct" style=3D"color: #ff7900;">3</span> </li> </ul> </div> <div id=3D"ft" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5p= x; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJkNTQ0OTVmBF9TAzk3ND= c2NTkwBGdycElkAzQzMTkyNTUEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1NzAxMDE0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzd= GltZQMxNDA0OTU3MDE4" style=3D"float: left;"><img src=3D"http://l.yimg.com/r= u/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png" height=3D"15"= width=3D"137" alt=3D"Yahoo! 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